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Post by jonloch1 on Dec 27, 2023 19:05:12 GMT
yeh, it sounds bad i know but i am getting bit fed up of everything being about the kids. i hate saying that because i do think they are great kids but AIKSF was basically a 'how i tour with my kids' documentary and i really dont want a 'here's how i tour with my kids but now they are older' documentary. Obviously i do expect them to be in it because obviously they are a massive part of her life but i dont want a whole other documentary all about them. and bringing up your point 'we want to know about the artist, enough talking about her family', the other thing i want from this album is if shes asked in a Q&A for example, whats your favourite song off of the album?? i want to know HER favourite song, not the song the kids like dancing to. because i remember when she released H2BH she did a live IG Q&A and her kids were in the room and like i remember she was asked what was her favourite book? and she asked Willow then went on a detailed answer about a kids book she likes to read to willow, then in like 2 seconds said something like oh and i like reading blah blah blah then moved on to the next question and i remember thinking 'im sure the fan wanted to know what YOUR favourite book was, not your kid's favourite book'. and she did this on a lot of other questions I don't think there can be a separation at the moment. They are intertwined. Her children are her life and will be embedded in everything she does. I can't imagine we'll see anything like you suggest until the kids are much, much older. i get that but she could still in her Q&A just answer whats her favourite song/film or whatever without going on about what her kids favourite is. i do feel bad saying this because her kids are amazing and im not saying she should never talk about them, it just feels like whenever shes asked whats her favourite whatever, its always 'well my kids love blah blah blah'. and i know they are young but she must still watch movies and do other stuff |
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Post by Danielle on Dec 27, 2023 20:11:38 GMT
I don't think there can be a separation at the moment. They are intertwined. Her children are her life and will be embedded in everything she does. I can't imagine we'll see anything like you suggest until the kids are much, much older. i get that but she could still in her Q&A just answer whats her favourite song/film or whatever without going on about what her kids favourite is. i do feel bad saying this because her kids are amazing and im not saying she should never talk about them, it just feels like whenever shes asked whats her favourite whatever, its always 'well my kids love blah blah blah'. and i know they are young but she must still watch movies and do other stuff I totally get you, and I don’t disagree, but some mums are just like that. 😂 It could be a security blanket thing for her now, or her way of showing her kids they are her priority above all else. It could be that she doesn’t want certain things fed back to them while they’re young. It could be a lot of things. Who knows. I just don’t see it happening until they’re more independent and she is forced to rediscover herself in the silence. |
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Post by purple18 on Dec 27, 2023 21:50:04 GMT
You guys obviously dont have kids and it shows 😂😂
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Post by Danielle on Dec 27, 2023 21:59:07 GMT
You guys obviously dont have kids and it shows 😂😂 Pretty much. 😅 There’s no “off” button, not really. |
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Post by purple18 on Dec 27, 2023 22:51:25 GMT
You guys obviously dont have kids and it shows 😂😂 Pretty much. 😅 There’s no “off” button, not really. yeah, optimally it’s like that. You cannot stop being someone’s parent. I think it just shows that she spends a lot of time with them. It’s kind of her “job” as well. Nobody complains when she talks about other hobbies or the winery. The kids are probably the greatest part of her life and she spends most of her time with them so that’s gonna make an impact. And to be honest i find it quite ungrateful to be acting so entitled and complaining about her talking about her kids too much when she could just easily leave us for the rest of her life because she has everything and a great life without making music or touring as well. If somebody told me to for example abandon my kids for a while to make “better” music i would be outraged. You gotta understand that nothing will ever be the same and nothing will ever be more important than your kids once you have them. It can be equally important at best, but never more important. So give her a break or just try to accept that with time people change and this is who she is now. |
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Post by Hooker on Dec 27, 2023 23:44:11 GMT
Madonna managed to keep her kids largely out of her interview answers and art for a good decade since having her first in late 1996.
P!nk seems like a very proud yet co-dependent helicopter mum, and probably wants to compensate for all of that Instagram criticism she received when they were younger.
In fairness, she gets asked about them a lot, but it's probably because most journos are basic and scan an artist's Instagram for discussion points, so it's self-perpetuating.
Being a mother has become a big part of her personality and public persona, and that's fine, but her fans wanna hear about her art and personal interests beyond family.
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Post by Hooker on Dec 27, 2023 23:44:42 GMT
Pretty much. 😅 There’s no “off” button, not really. yeah, optimally it’s like that. You cannot stop being someone’s parent. I think it just shows that she spends a lot of time with them. It’s kind of her “job” as well. Nobody complains when she talks about other hobbies or the winery. The kids are probably the greatest part of her life and she spends most of her time with them so that’s gonna make an impact. And to be honest i find it quite ungrateful to be acting so entitled and complaining about her talking about her kids too much when she could just easily leave us for the rest of her life because she has everything and a great life without making music or touring as well. If somebody told me to for example abandon my kids for a while to make “better” music i would be outraged. You gotta understand that nothing will ever be the same and nothing will ever be more important than your kids once you have them. It can be equally important at best, but never more important. So give her a break or just try to accept that with time people change and this is who she is now. I totally get that she may value being a parent more than being creative, but I'd rather no new music for a while than a weaker album half written by others because she didn't feel inspired enough. |
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Post by jonloch1 on Dec 27, 2023 23:58:20 GMT
Pretty much. 😅 There’s no “off” button, not really. yeah, optimally it’s like that. You cannot stop being someone’s parent. I think it just shows that she spends a lot of time with them. It’s kind of her “job” as well. Nobody complains when she talks about other hobbies or the winery. The kids are probably the greatest part of her life and she spends most of her time with them so that’s gonna make an impact. And to be honest i find it quite ungrateful to be acting so entitled and complaining about her talking about her kids too much when she could just easily leave us for the rest of her life because she has everything and a great life without making music or touring as well. If somebody told me to for example abandon my kids for a while to make “better” music i would be outraged. You gotta understand that nothing will ever be the same and nothing will ever be more important than your kids once you have them. It can be equally important at best, but never more important. So give her a break or just try to accept that with time people change and this is who she is now. im sorry but you're taking what people are saying too black and white. Of course we know she's a parent and her kids are important to her, and im sorry but you saying we're saying she should 'abandon her kids for a while to make “better” music' is overdramatic, no one is saying that whatsoever. What we're saying is we wish she would stop making music that 'her kids like to dance to' and make music that a 44 year old and fans that are in their 30s and 40s would wanna listen to. I dont understand how thats 'abandoning' her kids?? Take Eminem for example, hes been a father all through his career but you didnt see him watering down his music when his daughter was young. I totally get her kids are the most important thing in her life and no one is disputing that, but why does she have to water down her music for them. its like NGNDA again, i like the song but it sounds like a kids movie soundtrack, why release it when her fans are now in their 30s and 40s. Also, nobody complains when she talks about other hobbies or the winery because that isnt impacting her music. I do feel like she is toning down her music and not being so daring because she has kids and its like shes making music then playing it to her kids and if they like it she releases it and if they dont she doesnt [im not saying thats the case im saying that what it feels.] Listen, i wanna just stress again, i honestly think her kids are amazing and shes an amazing mother. i really think that. I just want her to make music as if she wasnt a parent and not to make her kids dance but to accommodate her fanbase whose now in their 30s and 40s and keep the NGNDA type songs for maybe soundtracks to upcoming animation movies. Thats all. and also i dont think anyone is saying she should never talk about her kids, im certainly not. what we're saying is stop making everything about them like in a Q&A someone asks whats her favourite film?? Can she not say what HER favourite film is and why she loves it etc and not what her kids love to watch. i dont see how thats too much to ask. if a fan wanted to know what her favourite film was to watch with her kids, they would specify that |
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Post by Danielle on Dec 28, 2023 0:51:53 GMT
From what I can glean, P!nk is a very different parent than Madonna and Eminem. Sure, some may be able to separate things, but I don’t think our girl is one of them. She makes music about her life. She doesn’t have a persona as such, not like some artists do. Her kids ARE her life. And that is her personality now. I get that you want it to be different, but I think you’ll be disappointed until she’s beyond the ”all-consuming” stage of motherhood, where they rely on you for everything and your life revolves around them. They’re still little.
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Post by purple18 on Dec 28, 2023 9:57:29 GMT
From what I can glean, P!nk is a very different parent than Madonna and Eminem. Sure, some may be able to separate things, but I don’t think our girl is one of them. She makes music about her life. She doesn’t have a persona as such, not like some artists do. Her kids ARE her life. And that is her personality now. I get that you want it to be different, but I think you’ll be disappointed until she’s beyond the ”all-consuming” stage of motherhood, where they rely on you for everything and your life revolves around them. They’re still little. summed up pretty much what i would have said. Parenting, especially being a “good” parent in the 90s and 00s is dramatically different than today. Her kids are the nr 1 thing in her life and will always be. Her art just reflects her everyday life. Maybe when they are older she will include other topics more. So it seems like when she writes her own songs it’s too kid-centered for some fans but then if she uses songs that other people wrote it’s a problem too. I agree that i would rather wait longer times for a better quality album but right now she gets to decide what she wants to do and when and what she considers great for a record. |
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Post by purple18 on Dec 28, 2023 10:34:39 GMT
I just want her to make music as if she wasnt a parent That is not possible. Not for her at least, not for many parents. I and not to make her kids dance but to accommodate her fanbase whose now in their 30s and 40s Many of her fans in their 30s and 40s are in the same life phase as she is, parenthood. Maybe we need to accept that she evolved as an artist into a different direction than we did personally. And that is okay and maybe you would feel more at ease with it. |
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Post by P!nkZomb!e on Dec 28, 2023 13:50:58 GMT
yeah, optimally it’s like that. You cannot stop being someone’s parent. I think it just shows that she spends a lot of time with them. It’s kind of her “job” as well. Nobody complains when she talks about other hobbies or the winery. The kids are probably the greatest part of her life and she spends most of her time with them so that’s gonna make an impact. And to be honest i find it quite ungrateful to be acting so entitled and complaining about her talking about her kids too much when she could just easily leave us for the rest of her life because she has everything and a great life without making music or touring as well. If somebody told me to for example abandon my kids for a while to make “better” music i would be outraged. You gotta understand that nothing will ever be the same and nothing will ever be more important than your kids once you have them. It can be equally important at best, but never more important. So give her a break or just try to accept that with time people change and this is who she is now. im sorry but you're taking what people are saying too black and white. Of course we know she's a parent and her kids are important to her, and im sorry but you saying we're saying she should 'abandon her kids for a while to make “better” music' is overdramatic, no one is saying that whatsoever. What we're saying is we wish she would stop making music that 'her kids like to dance to' and make music that a 44 year old and fans that are in their 30s and 40s would wanna listen to. I dont understand how thats 'abandoning' her kids?? Take Eminem for example, hes been a father all through his career but you didnt see him watering down his music when his daughter was young. I totally get her kids are the most important thing in her life and no one is disputing that, but why does she have to water down her music for them. its like NGNDA again, i like the song but it sounds like a kids movie soundtrack, why release it when her fans are now in their 30s and 40s. Also, nobody complains when she talks about other hobbies or the winery because that isnt impacting her music. I do feel like she is toning down her music and not being so daring because she has kids and its like shes making music then playing it to her kids and if they like it she releases it and if they dont she doesnt [im not saying thats the case im saying that what it feels.] Listen, i wanna just stress again, i honestly think her kids are amazing and shes an amazing mother. i really think that. I just want her to make music as if she wasnt a parent and not to make her kids dance but to accommodate her fanbase whose now in their 30s and 40s and keep the NGNDA type songs for maybe soundtracks to upcoming animation movies. Thats all. and also i dont think anyone is saying she should never talk about her kids, im certainly not. what we're saying is stop making everything about them like in a Q&A someone asks whats her favourite film?? Can she not say what HER favourite film is and why she loves it etc and not what her kids love to watch. i dont see how thats too much to ask. if a fan wanted to know what her favourite film was to watch with her kids, they would specify that I absolutely agree with you, I'm glad i am not the only one who feels this way. I honestly don't watch her interviews as much anymore because of this reason. Her kids are adorable and she is obviously an awesome mom, but we don't need to hear about them in every single interview and Q&A she does |
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Post by alrightsir on Dec 28, 2023 14:44:45 GMT
I get the frustration of people here. She has never been the one who goes into full details regarding her creative work, it's always been her personal thoughts and their reflection on her music rather than the music itself. And since kids are accumulating her mind a lot, that already small amount of music-related stuff decreased even more to almost nothing. She could balance it better, yes, but she's just not there.
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Post by jonloch1 on Dec 28, 2023 17:43:27 GMT
im sorry but you're taking what people are saying too black and white. Of course we know she's a parent and her kids are important to her, and im sorry but you saying we're saying she should 'abandon her kids for a while to make “better” music' is overdramatic, no one is saying that whatsoever. What we're saying is we wish she would stop making music that 'her kids like to dance to' and make music that a 44 year old and fans that are in their 30s and 40s would wanna listen to. I dont understand how thats 'abandoning' her kids?? Take Eminem for example, hes been a father all through his career but you didnt see him watering down his music when his daughter was young. I totally get her kids are the most important thing in her life and no one is disputing that, but why does she have to water down her music for them. its like NGNDA again, i like the song but it sounds like a kids movie soundtrack, why release it when her fans are now in their 30s and 40s. Also, nobody complains when she talks about other hobbies or the winery because that isnt impacting her music. I do feel like she is toning down her music and not being so daring because she has kids and its like shes making music then playing it to her kids and if they like it she releases it and if they dont she doesnt [im not saying thats the case im saying that what it feels.] Listen, i wanna just stress again, i honestly think her kids are amazing and shes an amazing mother. i really think that. I just want her to make music as if she wasnt a parent and not to make her kids dance but to accommodate her fanbase whose now in their 30s and 40s and keep the NGNDA type songs for maybe soundtracks to upcoming animation movies. Thats all. and also i dont think anyone is saying she should never talk about her kids, im certainly not. what we're saying is stop making everything about them like in a Q&A someone asks whats her favourite film?? Can she not say what HER favourite film is and why she loves it etc and not what her kids love to watch. i dont see how thats too much to ask. if a fan wanted to know what her favourite film was to watch with her kids, they would specify that I absolutely agree with you, I'm glad i am not the only one who feels this way. I honestly don't watch her interviews as much anymore because of this reason. Her kids are adorable and she is obviously an awesome mom, but we don't need to hear about them in every single interview and Q&A she does yeh exactly. i wanna stress also, my problem is not that she talks about her kids, obviously shes a mother so shes gunna talk about them. my problem isnt even she involves them in things because i do like seeing them. I'm not that cold hearted lol. My problem is EVERYTHING is about the kids, every question shes asked, the AIKSF documentary was 80% about them. Now, obviously its about her tour life and so obviously they will be in it which i do like, i am not anti her kids. its just the whole thing was about them and she could've cut back and shown more backstage footage, or her doing more prep for the show or having 'me time', did we really need to see her changing Jameson's nappy? BTW as well, just to show that im not that cold hearted, one of my favourite parts of AIKSF was Jameson misbehaving and her trying to be serious and tell him off but bursting out laughing. That was funny!! See, i dont mind bits like that, i just dont want everything to be about her kids |
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Post by qcpatdive on Dec 29, 2023 6:27:09 GMT
I have a mixed opinion. I agree with each of you hahaha.
I understand 100% that her children are the most important thing in her life. I have 4 kids myself...and I try not to talk about my kids all the time at work or elsewhere, because it gets boring.
I think Pink should make an effort also.
I feel like it’s become her branding "to be a cool, rebellious mother". This is what sets her apart from other artists, at least on social networks.
Anyway, I don’t agree with overexposing children, sharing lots of photos or videos of them. I find it risky for her and for them. Just remember the picture when Jameson had no diaper.
But at the same time, I’m glad to see her happy with her family.
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