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Post by Yannick on Nov 14, 2022 17:54:01 GMT
I am so much looking forward to this! The tribute is going to be beautiful, I am sure!
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Post by justlikeapill on Nov 16, 2022 20:27:33 GMT
Right, so here's the thing: you need to have realistic expectations and take into account the huge change in charts since P!nk properly launched a new era, especially with singles. iTunes sales have taken a nosedive yet streaming numbers are overwhelmingly huge for most current acts. P!nk's audience in somewhere in the middle, leaning more towards buying and the metrics unfortunately favor streaming so it is a very, very safe assumption that she will probably never get a Top 10/20 hit on the singles chart unless it's a complete viral fluke accident. She's doing well on radio it seems, Hot Adult Contemporary always has her back, but that doesn't mean much in 2022. NGNDA was added to all HAC stations today on impact date. On the flipside of all of this, RCA is perhaps the worst major label right now. If you check their roster, you will see that very few of their artists have had a hit in the past few years. They don't do good with giving fans limited edition physical singles, merch drops, a proper artist store with digital versions to buy (explicit, clean, instrumental). Imagine having so many elements to play with visually for this record, yet they didn't think to produce a Vicious Bitches Chips'es merch line, a limited edition rollerskate custom die-cut 7" vinyl, collectible CD singles with cover variants, etc. They are SO traditional with their approach and it is just not it. They don't even have shipping points set up for the artists in different territories, it all comes from the US and those sales are not chart-eligible + VERY high shipping and import tax fees. Even pointed out by Max to me earlier, she is teasing that the behind the scenes video will be dropping on Facebook today. FACEBOOK. IN 2022. I pray the album pre-order goes live soon because God knows she needs every minute of pre-orders before the actual release date. They also need vinyl variants, a Spotify First vinyl, AT LEAST a standard and deluxe CD (cover variants would be better), a cassette, a box set, a t-shirt bundle for Target, signed art cards only available with bundles of 3+ formats, etc. ANYTHING to get sales. She has a strong core fanbase and they never take advantage of that. Proof is the AIKSF zine, that sold out fast with minimal promo despite being priced at $40 with very high international shipping charges. I digress, but I think you get the point. She has moved from a chart competing artist to more of a legendary status that sells albums and tours. I'd start worrying when her albums don't sell/chart well. Hi, Spice. I get you and don’t disagree, but there is nothing sadder IMO than watching an artist try to be something they are not. Times have changed for sure, and I believe she is trying to figure out a new direction just like every one else. I just wanted to share something here. To give you an example of what musicians are up against: the band Garbage recently released a 30 year anthology album and then was told that the people who own the rights to it (Geffen, Interscope , Universal Music Group, etc) decided they would not be releasing any physical media in North America. Record companies are bleeding artists dry, and lead singer Shirley Manson has been quite vocal about it. I’m not sure if P!nk is feeling the pressure, but given what a shitty job RCA has done for her in the past it wouldn’t surprise me. The musical landscape IS changing. Constantly. As you said, we as fans must figure out how we change too. 🤷♀️ “The music business is not for the faint of heart “ This completes my TED talk. LOL. |
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Post by Dani on Nov 16, 2022 20:39:47 GMT
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Post by qcpatdive on Nov 21, 2022 1:12:30 GMT
Maybe my expectations were too high...
How did you like her performance of NGNDA at AMAs?
The sound was terrible. It did not help.
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Post by cal on Nov 21, 2022 1:16:32 GMT
Cool intro, great visuals, she looked like she had a blast.
Vocals disappointed me. And it took away from the whole performance unfortunately.
Hopefully it's uploaded to YouTube in good quality because I watched it on a terrible quality stream.
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Post by dfantasy on Nov 21, 2022 1:20:20 GMT
It was boring. I don't like the prerecorded part (same thing with WMH at the Brits) - for an already short song it ate into her time.
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Post by cal on Nov 21, 2022 1:25:27 GMT
It was boring. I don't like the prerecorded part (same thing with WMH at the Brits) - for an already short song it ate into her time. Wait, you call a 3:46 song short?? That's a pretty good length. |
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Post by dfantasy on Nov 21, 2022 1:48:47 GMT
It was boring. I don't like the prerecorded part (same thing with WMH at the Brits) - for an already short song it ate into her time. Wait, you call a 3:46 song short?? That's a pretty good length. Oops, the song always felt short to me because it only has like 2 verses before it repeats itself. And any P!nk performance always feel too short (as a fan) |
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Post by apseloni on Nov 21, 2022 2:24:15 GMT
I wasn't convinced at first. But then I saw this video from the audience's perspective at the show and I was sold! They did her dirty with the editing and the sound quality. I guess that's a risk when you are the absolute first (?) |
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Post by justlikeapill on Nov 21, 2022 2:26:16 GMT
Maybe my expectations were too high... How did you like her performance of NGNDA at AMAs? The sound was terrible. It did not help. The sound was terrible, but I thought it was fun to watch. |
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Post by cal on Nov 21, 2022 4:19:06 GMT
I wasn't convinced at first. But then I saw this video from the audience's perspective at the show and I was sold! They did her dirty with the editing and the sound quality. I guess that's a risk when you are the absolute first (?) Even then, you can still hear her voice was very shaky. Still not great, but wicked fun! |
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Post by Hooker on Nov 22, 2022 10:18:55 GMT
Isn't this a good thing that she surprised us. So what's the big problem ? its not so much that. its just NGNDA sounds like a kids movie theme song. i have such a love/hate relationship with NGNDA. The other day i felt bored of it but today i started to like it again. it is a good fun song but like i said, it sounds like a kids movie theme song and her fans arent kids. i think thats the issue I hear you... When I first heard the song, it sounded like she was going for that 'Can't Stop The Feeling' coin. |
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Post by Hooker on Nov 22, 2022 10:32:07 GMT
The song is flopping terribly. Feeling a bit sorry for her, because I think she was invested into the song and the video. But, this isn't it. I feel kind of sorry for her too, although I really appreciate how invested she and her team are when it comes to the visuals. It's polished and she looks beautiful.
However, I hate to say it, but I think the poor chart performance might be the sting she needs to realise that she has been quite formulaic for a while now and that her public wants more.
Personally, I need the artistic fighter in her to come out again.
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Post by alrightsir on Nov 22, 2022 16:25:21 GMT
The song is flopping terribly. Feeling a bit sorry for her, because I think she was invested into the song and the video. But, this isn't it. I feel kind of sorry for her too, although I really appreciate how invested she and her team are when it comes to the visuals. It's polished and she looks beautiful.
However, I hate to say it, but I think the poor chart performance might be the sting she needs to realise that she has been quite formulaic for a while now and that her public wants more.
Personally, I need the artistic fighter in her to come out again.
I have to agree. I think she could still gain commercial success but not if she sticks to this formula. They need to be a bit more courageous. I do believe I Am Here would have gained pretty decent success. |
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Post by justlikeapill on Nov 23, 2022 1:19:43 GMT
I wasn't convinced at first. But then I saw this video from the audience's perspective at the show and I was sold! They did her dirty with the editing and the sound quality. I guess that's a risk when you are the absolute first (?) It was like Cirque du Soleil on wheels! |
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