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Post by antonio1983 on Nov 8, 2022 23:40:49 GMT
Right, so here's the thing: you need to have realistic expectations and take into account the huge change in charts since P!nk properly launched a new era, especially with singles. iTunes sales have taken a nosedive yet streaming numbers are overwhelmingly huge for most current acts. P!nk's audience in somewhere in the middle, leaning more towards buying and the metrics unfortunately favor streaming so it is a very, very safe assumption that she will probably never get a Top 10/20 hit on the singles chart unless it's a complete viral fluke accident. She's doing well on radio it seems, Hot Adult Contemporary always has her back, but that doesn't mean much in 2022. NGNDA was added to all HAC stations today on impact date. On the flipside of all of this, RCA is perhaps the worst major label right now. If you check their roster, you will see that very few of their artists have had a hit in the past few years. They don't do good with giving fans limited edition physical singles, merch drops, a proper artist store with digital versions to buy (explicit, clean, instrumental). Imagine having so many elements to play with visually for this record, yet they didn't think to produce a Vicious Bitches Chips'es merch line, a limited edition rollerskate custom die-cut 7" vinyl, collectible CD singles with cover variants, etc. They are SO traditional with their approach and it is just not it. They don't even have shipping points set up for the artists in different territories, it all comes from the US and those sales are not chart-eligible + VERY high shipping and import tax fees. Even pointed out by Max to me earlier, she is teasing that the behind the scenes video will be dropping on Facebook today. FACEBOOK. IN 2022. I pray the album pre-order goes live soon because God knows she needs every minute of pre-orders before the actual release date. They also need vinyl variants, a Spotify First vinyl, AT LEAST a standard and deluxe CD (cover variants would be better), a cassette, a box set, a t-shirt bundle for Target, signed art cards only available with bundles of 3+ formats, etc. ANYTHING to get sales. She has a strong core fanbase and they never take advantage of that. Proof is the AIKSF zine, that sold out fast with minimal promo despite being priced at $40 with very high international shipping charges. I digress, but I think you get the point. She has moved from a chart competing artist to more of a legendary status that sells albums and tours. I'd start worrying when her albums don't sell/chart well. I agree with everything you said. I think Pink and her team need to change and adapt to the new market reality. Only then will she have any chance of becoming relevant on the charts. Irrelevant is great and I wanted an album that really looked like this, but even the fans didn't pay much attention, unfortunately. What do you think about doing a joint effort and bombing RCA's social networks and email with these ideas? Who knows, maybe they'll wake up to reality.
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Post by Dani on Nov 9, 2022 9:23:45 GMT
Right, so here's the thing: you need to have realistic expectations and take into account the huge change in charts since P!nk properly launched a new era, especially with singles. iTunes sales have taken a nosedive yet streaming numbers are overwhelmingly huge for most current acts. P!nk's audience in somewhere in the middle, leaning more towards buying and the metrics unfortunately favor streaming so it is a very, very safe assumption that she will probably never get a Top 10/20 hit on the singles chart unless it's a complete viral fluke accident. She's doing well on radio it seems, Hot Adult Contemporary always has her back, but that doesn't mean much in 2022. NGNDA was added to all HAC stations today on impact date. On the flipside of all of this, RCA is perhaps the worst major label right now. If you check their roster, you will see that very few of their artists have had a hit in the past few years. They don't do good with giving fans limited edition physical singles, merch drops, a proper artist store with digital versions to buy (explicit, clean, instrumental). Imagine having so many elements to play with visually for this record, yet they didn't think to produce a Vicious Bitches Chips'es merch line, a limited edition rollerskate custom die-cut 7" vinyl, collectible CD singles with cover variants, etc. They are SO traditional with their approach and it is just not it. They don't even have shipping points set up for the artists in different territories, it all comes from the US and those sales are not chart-eligible + VERY high shipping and import tax fees. Even pointed out by Max to me earlier, she is teasing that the behind the scenes video will be dropping on Facebook today. FACEBOOK. IN 2022. I pray the album pre-order goes live soon because God knows she needs every minute of pre-orders before the actual release date. They also need vinyl variants, a Spotify First vinyl, AT LEAST a standard and deluxe CD (cover variants would be better), a cassette, a box set, a t-shirt bundle for Target, signed art cards only available with bundles of 3+ formats, etc. ANYTHING to get sales. She has a strong core fanbase and they never take advantage of that. Proof is the AIKSF zine, that sold out fast with minimal promo despite being priced at $40 with very high international shipping charges. I digress, but I think you get the point. She has moved from a chart competing artist to more of a legendary status that sells albums and tours. I'd start worrying when her albums don't sell/chart well. I agree with everything you said. I think Pink and her team need to change and adapt to the new market reality. Only then will she have any chance of becoming relevant on the charts. Irrelevant is great and I wanted an album that really looked like this, but even the fans didn't pay much attention, unfortunately. What do you think about doing a joint effort and bombing RCA's social networks and email with these ideas? Who knows, maybe they'll wake up to reality. It’s been like this every album unfortunately. And imo we’ve been very vocal about what we think… somehow it feels to me that they’re happy about any result with as little effort as possible.
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Post by qcpatdive on Nov 9, 2022 11:29:01 GMT
Where can I find the Behind the scenes?? I thought it was on FB but I dont see it. I saw some snippets like this one and it's 💣💥
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Post by Dani on Nov 9, 2022 11:35:32 GMT
Where can I find the Behind the scenes?? I thought it was on FB but I dont see it. I saw some snippets like this one and it's 💣💥 I have no idea? But omg look at that fluffy fluff!!!! 😍😍😍
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Post by hookedonspice on Nov 9, 2022 18:56:08 GMT
The brilliant RCA strikes again by having the BTS video only on Facebook and it’s geoblocked, only viewable if you’re in the US.
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Post by grenno on Nov 9, 2022 19:11:37 GMT
The brilliant RCA strikes again by having the BTS video only on Facebook and it’s geoblocked, only viewable if you’re in the US. RCfAil
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Post by Sammy ❤️ on Nov 9, 2022 20:42:21 GMT
The brilliant RCA strikes again by having the BTS video only on Facebook and it’s geoblocked, only viewable if you’re in the US. I can see some 30 second clip of BTS? From UK
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Post by Gabry on Nov 10, 2022 5:30:32 GMT
The brilliant RCA strikes again by having the BTS video only on Facebook and it’s geoblocked, only viewable if you’re in the US. this is ridiculous! I couldn’t find it and thought that’s strange, I only see a short clip. is this her last album or does she have another one with rca? I really hope she switch to a different label. I adore everything she does but we need merch. collector items. and everything else possible. and not amarican based only. this is so stupid
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Post by Dani on Nov 10, 2022 7:49:19 GMT
The brilliant RCA strikes again by having the BTS video only on Facebook and it’s geoblocked, only viewable if you’re in the US. this is ridiculous! I couldn’t find it and thought that’s strange, I only see a short clip. is this her last album or does she have another one with rca? I really hope she switch to a different label. I adore everything she does but we need merch. collector items. and everything else possible. and not amarican based only. this is so stupid I got emails about merch from her newsletter after she dropped vicious bitches chipses clips and stared hyping up the single but it was just old merch🤣🤣🤣HOW DARE THEY
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Post by grenno on Nov 10, 2022 8:14:56 GMT
So apparently there was a Q&A yesterday or something… any album news?
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Post by hookedonspice on Nov 10, 2022 9:17:08 GMT
So apparently there was a Q&A yesterday or something… any album news? I ripped it, she was live on Tiktok cooking and "answering questions" (most of which came from a sheet). Here you go:
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Post by hookedonspice on Nov 10, 2022 9:18:50 GMT
The brilliant RCA strikes again by having the BTS video only on Facebook and it’s geoblocked, only viewable if you’re in the US. I can see some 30 second clip of BTS? From UK She posted it on IG finally. http://instagram.com/p/CkwqUo1jXDr
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Post by Dani on Nov 10, 2022 10:44:14 GMT
Why is it not on YouTube jesus christ
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Post by grenno on Nov 10, 2022 13:31:49 GMT
So apparently there was a Q&A yesterday or something… any album news? I ripped it, she was live on Tiktok cooking and "answering questions" (most of which came from a sheet). Here you go: Thank you, bébé!
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Post by qcpatdive on Nov 10, 2022 15:12:27 GMT
I ripped it, she was live on Tiktok cooking and "answering questions" (most of which came from a sheet). Here you go: thank you for the video! Hahaha she didn't answered any question!!!!
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