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Post by heehawes on Jan 5, 2019 13:57:13 GMT
I know people get serious about TV and movies and stuff and sometimes wanna avoid spoilers. 🤷🏻♀️
I've seen people almost get into fights at my work when people ruin the latest episode of Game of Thrones or whatever. 😬
so yah....
own thread.
spoilers below.
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Post by heehawes on Jan 5, 2019 14:00:03 GMT
Maaaaan...
WTF.
I thought Paco would come back w/ the gun and save Beck / kill Joe... 😫
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Post by Dani on Jan 5, 2019 15:32:12 GMT
Maaaaan... WTF. I thought Paco would come back w/ the gun and save Beck / kill Joe... 😫 😑😢 And he fucking got away with it too  I’m sure that spy who’s Peach’s family hired will figure it all out in next season. |
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Post by Dani on Jan 5, 2019 15:37:23 GMT
I love the moment when he got beaten up and said something about it’s ok it was karma, universe always finds ways to make us humble again. Anyway. I like that we hear what he’s thinking. It’s similar to House of cards in that way  |
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Post by heehawes on Jan 5, 2019 15:40:54 GMT
Maaaaan... WTF. I thought Paco would come back w/ the gun and save Beck / kill Joe... 😫 😑😢 And he fucking got away with it too I’m sure that spy who’s Peach’s family hired will figure it all out in next season. or he'll end up dead. 😐 Seriously, its weird that Joe would just let Paco go like that, when he could eventually out him... Joe did try and control Paco though in the same way Mr Mooney controlled young Joe. I think Paco is smarter than that though. Hopefully. I don't want to see him turn into the same kind of monster. And WTF? Candice ISNT dead? Why is she back? wtf? or is this some sorta dilusion that Joe is having? kinda like after the concussion / car wreck? |
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Post by heehawes on Jan 5, 2019 15:47:53 GMT
Maybe the detective will contract Karen.
remember she was always so organized and clean and tidy (remember Joe talked about that).
maybe she found / saw something in his apartment, that maybe didnt set off any red flags at the moment, but her input might help the detective out a bit.
I think she will be back somehow....
Also Dr Nicky is still alive, detective can talk to him.
its just kinda crazy that Joe got away with it all (for now)
he doesnt seem to be the smartest, like he keeps fucking up and then recovering.
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Post by Dani on Jan 5, 2019 15:55:33 GMT
😑😢 And he fucking got away with it too I’m sure that spy who’s Peach’s family hired will figure it all out in next season. or he'll end up dead. 😐 Seriously, its weird that Joe would just let Paco go like that, when he could eventually out him... Joe did try and control Paco though in the same way Mr Mooney controlled young Joe. I think Paco is smarter than that though. Hopefully. I don't want to see him turn into the same kind of monster. And WTF? Candice ISNT dead? Why is she back? wtf? or is this some sorta dilusion that Joe is having? kinda like after the concussion / car wreck? Joe already fucked him up. I think it was the same book Joe was forced to read himself as a kid that he gave Paco. Plus that evil man who beats his mom probably already ruined his outlook on relationships and love  Joe seems pretty delusional about her, so I think she’s still dead. I hope not though, but who knows. |
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Post by Dani on Jan 5, 2019 15:59:38 GMT
Maybe the detective will contract Karen. remember she was always so organized and clean and tidy (remember Joe talked about that). maybe she found / saw something in his apartment, that maybe didnt set off any red flags at the moment, but her input might help the detective out a bit. I think she will be back somehow.... Also Dr Nicky is still alive, detective can talk to him. its just kinda crazy that Joe got away with it all (for now) he doesnt seem to be the smartest, like he keeps fucking up and then recovering. Yeah, he gets away with everything because of his charm and because he’s good with manipulation. These people can fool most people. And it’s so scary how convinced he is that he’s doing the right thing to kill people. It’s like, he’s trying so hard to find something wrong with them so that he can justify his actions. I wonder what happened with the pee though? They did send it for analyzing didn’t they? |
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Post by Dani on Jan 5, 2019 16:08:40 GMT
I had to google the cast again to see who Karen was  No she’s one of them who don’t give a fuck after she’s left. I’m sure. |
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Post by heehawes on Jan 5, 2019 16:14:46 GMT
or he'll end up dead. 😐 Seriously, its weird that Joe would just let Paco go like that, when he could eventually out him... Joe did try and control Paco though in the same way Mr Mooney controlled young Joe. I think Paco is smarter than that though. Hopefully. I don't want to see him turn into the same kind of monster. And WTF? Candice ISNT dead? Why is she back? wtf? or is this some sorta dilusion that Joe is having? kinda like after the concussion / car wreck? Joe already fucked him up. I think it was the same book Joe was forced to read himself as a kid that he gave Paco. Plus that evil man who beats his mom probably already ruined his outlook on relationships and love Joe seems pretty delusional about her, so I think she’s still dead. I hope not though, but who knows. yah. all those things have to have traumatized him and warped his sense of reality. and given him the idea, "some people deserve to die". **one little note in here too, after Joe kills whats his name, the boyfriend guy. Joe trys to scare Paco into being quiet about it all. Making Paco think he will be in trouble that fucking hit me hard, because Paco IS NOT to blame in any of that I know it happens in real life, kids who are victims get told that by the bad guy, "you'll get in a lot of trouble if anybody finds out". and so many people / victims keep their mouths shut out of fear.** I think though, Paco being a kid - I just kinda HOPE for some redemption for him, for him to come clean about it all. And I think he will. I don't think Paco wanted Beck to die. He was just so fucked up from what all Joe put in his head. hes probably scared for himself and for his mom etc etc etc gahhhhh. I just want things to turn out ok for Paco |
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Post by heehawes on Jan 5, 2019 16:28:53 GMT
I had to google the cast again to see who Karen was No she’s one of them who don’t give a fuck after she’s left. I’m sure. She has that attitude for sure. shes like "fuck him, I'm out" like when Joe breaks up with her shes just like "whatever". but maybe when she hears of Becks death she gets suspicious about it all. She knew about Candice and now this with Beck, Id be a little like "what the fuck?" hmmmm.... or maybe the framing Dr Nicky is too convincing for the whole world, and shes just like "New York is crazy, everybodys crazy. byeeee" |
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Post by Dani on Jan 5, 2019 16:29:37 GMT
Joe already fucked him up. I think it was the same book Joe was forced to read himself as a kid that he gave Paco. Plus that evil man who beats his mom probably already ruined his outlook on relationships and love Joe seems pretty delusional about her, so I think she’s still dead. I hope not though, but who knows. yah. all those things have to have traumatized him and warped his sense of reality. and given him the idea, "some people deserve to die". **one little note in here too, after Joe kills whats his name, the boyfriend guy. Joe trys to scare Paco into being quiet about it all. Making Paco think he will be in trouble that fucking hit me hard, because Paco IS NOT to blame in any of that I know it happens in real life, kids who are victims get told that by the bad guy, "you'll get in a lot of trouble if anybody finds out". and so many people / victims keep their mouths shut out of fear.** I think though, Paco being a kid - I just kinda HOPE for some redemption for him, for him to come clean about it all. And I think he will. I don't think Paco wanted Beck to die. He was just so fucked up from what all Joe put in his head. hes probably scared for himself and for his mom etc etc etc gahhhhh. I just want things to turn out ok for Paco Paco’s mom will hopefully take care of him now that she’s stable again and without that guy. Unless she falls for the same shit again 😒 She was pretty selfish, but weak, when she was feeling bad. I want to say that Paco was just scared when he could have saved Beck, but you could see in his face that he knew what he was doing when he closed the door. Also he was wayyyyy to calm in that situation for it to be healthy, I guess that’s because he saw his mom been beaten up every day bleh. Yeah Paco. So do you think there are people like Joe out there? I’m sure obsession and online stalking is common, but it leading to murdering like the way Joe did? |
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Post by heehawes on Jan 5, 2019 16:43:41 GMT
yah. all those things have to have traumatized him and warped his sense of reality. and given him the idea, "some people deserve to die". **one little note in here too, after Joe kills whats his name, the boyfriend guy. Joe trys to scare Paco into being quiet about it all. Making Paco think he will be in trouble that fucking hit me hard, because Paco IS NOT to blame in any of that I know it happens in real life, kids who are victims get told that by the bad guy, "you'll get in a lot of trouble if anybody finds out". and so many people / victims keep their mouths shut out of fear.** I think though, Paco being a kid - I just kinda HOPE for some redemption for him, for him to come clean about it all. And I think he will. I don't think Paco wanted Beck to die. He was just so fucked up from what all Joe put in his head. hes probably scared for himself and for his mom etc etc etc gahhhhh. I just want things to turn out ok for Paco Paco’s mom will hopefully take care of him now that she’s stable again and without that guy. Unless she falls for the same shit again 😒 She was pretty selfish, but weak, when she was feeling bad. I want to say that Paco was just scared when he could have saved Beck, but you could see in his face that he knew what he was doing when he closed the door. Also he was wayyyyy to calm in that situation for it to be healthy, I guess that’s because he saw his mom been beaten up every day bleh. Yeah Paco. So do you think there are people like Joe out there? I’m sure obsession and online stalking is common, but it leading to murdering like the way Joe did? ugggg. you're right.... 😫 I just hate thinking that little boy is ruined. To answer your question about Joe. Yah, I think theres people like that. I mean, to THAT extent is pretty crazy though. I know people creep on peoples online accounts, and people snoop through phones etc etc etc, but the shit he did, even in the first episode is nuts. he fricking snuck into her house in episode one. 😐 WTF. and then everything that comes next. 😫 Joe is just completely out of his mind. The whole time, even at the end, when Beck is in the cage, he trys to rationalize it all. Like he somehow thinks if he shows Beck these things she will be ok with it all. Does he think she'll suddenly be like "Oh! you did this for me! You DO love me! awwww" I really thought Beck would make it out in the end. For her to escape she had to start putting herself in Joes shoes. Thats when she suggested framing Dr Nicky - which obviously she didnt really wanna do - she just came up with that plan so he would let her outnof the cage. It reminded me of MISERY at the end a little bit. |
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Post by Dani on Jan 5, 2019 17:37:45 GMT
Paco’s mom will hopefully take care of him now that she’s stable again and without that guy. Unless she falls for the same shit again 😒 She was pretty selfish, but weak, when she was feeling bad. I want to say that Paco was just scared when he could have saved Beck, but you could see in his face that he knew what he was doing when he closed the door. Also he was wayyyyy to calm in that situation for it to be healthy, I guess that’s because he saw his mom been beaten up every day bleh. Yeah Paco. So do you think there are people like Joe out there? I’m sure obsession and online stalking is common, but it leading to murdering like the way Joe did? ugggg. you're right.... 😫 I just hate thinking that little boy is ruined. To answer your question about Joe. Yah, I think theres people like that. I mean, to THAT extent is pretty crazy though. I know people creep on peoples online accounts, and people snoop through phones etc etc etc, but the shit he did, even in the first episode is nuts. he fricking snuck into her house in episode one. 😐 WTF. and then everything that comes next. 😫 Joe is just completely out of his mind. The whole time, even at the end, when Beck is in the cage, he trys to rationalize it all. Like he somehow thinks if he shows Beck these things she will be ok with it all. Does he think she'll suddenly be like "Oh! you did this for me! You DO love me! awwww" I really thought Beck would make it out in the end. For her to escape she had to start putting herself in Joes shoes. Thats when she suggested framing Dr Nicky - which obviously she didnt really wanna do - she just came up with that plan so he would let her outnof the cage. It reminded me of MISERY at the end a little bit. Hmmmm. It’s a tv show = fake. So you don’t have to feel thaaat bad about Paco  In the beginning I just felt sorry for Joe. And then he seemed to really care for her, there was a healthy little moment there for a while, and then he was back on his creepy controlling self again. And then it just escalated. I’m thinking there are probably more Joes in the world than we think. I wish he had someone in his life that could have told him about wrong and right even if he had been taught nonsense when he was a kid. He seemed to be very alone through life, which is probably because of his manipulative personality. Yeha I thought Beck was smarter than she was. She should have played him from the first beginning when she woke up in the cage. Wtf was she thinking was gonna happen to an insane person if she would wanna go against his plan the way she did. Lol. Just stupid. But I don’t blame her waking up from heaven into hell 🤷🏽♀️ |
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Post by heehawes on Jan 5, 2019 17:53:50 GMT
ugggg. you're right.... 😫 I just hate thinking that little boy is ruined. To answer your question about Joe. Yah, I think theres people like that. I mean, to THAT extent is pretty crazy though. I know people creep on peoples online accounts, and people snoop through phones etc etc etc, but the shit he did, even in the first episode is nuts. he fricking snuck into her house in episode one. 😐 WTF. and then everything that comes next. 😫 Joe is just completely out of his mind. The whole time, even at the end, when Beck is in the cage, he trys to rationalize it all. Like he somehow thinks if he shows Beck these things she will be ok with it all. Does he think she'll suddenly be like "Oh! you did this for me! You DO love me! awwww" I really thought Beck would make it out in the end. For her to escape she had to start putting herself in Joes shoes. Thats when she suggested framing Dr Nicky - which obviously she didnt really wanna do - she just came up with that plan so he would let her outnof the cage. It reminded me of MISERY at the end a little bit. Hmmmm. It’s a tv show = fake. So you don’t have to feel thaaat bad about Paco In the beginning I just felt sorry for Joe. And then he seemed to really care for her, there was a healthy little moment there for a while, and then he was back on his creepy controlling self again. And then it just escalated. I’m thinking there are probably more Joes in the world than we think. I wish he had someone in his life that could have told him about wrong and right even if he had been taught nonsense when he was a kid. He seemed to be very alone through life, which is probably because of his manipulative personality. Yeha I thought Beck was smarter than she was. She should have played him from the first beginning when she woke up in the cage. Wtf was she thinking was gonna happen to an insane person if she would wanna go against his plan the way she did. Lol. Just stupid. But I don’t blame her waking up from heaven into hell 🤷🏽♀️ yah at the beginning I kinda liked Joe, in a weird tv romcom silly situation fantasy way. him being in the shower when it gets turned on seems like something you could see in a funny 90's comedy movie and not really bat an eye at. but in real life, sneaking into somebodys house like that is fucking nuts. and he gets worse and worse. but hearing his inner dialog you do kinda understand that he means well. or he thinks he does. but hes legit crazy.... the actor does a good job of that I think. as the series goes on. his little twitches and getting more and more neurotic and some of his facial expressions. |
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I’m sure that spy who’s Peach’s family hired will figure it all out in next season.
