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Post by jonloch1 on Dec 17, 2018 21:41:18 GMT
I know I said something similar a couple of months ago about this era. But tbh I don't get this at all. I was fully expecting a re-release with new songs released around this time but nothing! The tour restarts again in March supporting an album which by that point a year and a half old. And I know with IND and FH she toured it for 2 years but in that time she made music videos and did countless TV appearances and when I saw her on FH Summer Carnival tour in 2010, the album didn't feel like 18 months old. yet BT is 14 months old and don't get me wrong I still love it but it already feels 2 or 3 years old to me now. there's nothing to even talk about even though im excited about seeing her in june 2019
why no re-release/deluxe edition with new songs? I don't understand
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Post by Pinkgurl on Dec 18, 2018 1:04:52 GMT
She has other projects she's attending to right now and she has a family. What else do you want from her? Her blood? I.m not trying to sound mean but I think she deserves some time to herself to do other things besides her music. She earned it she has been devoted to us for so long why should we keep begging for more? Are you not happy with what she has given us? She's isn't a machine and I think you know this but this post is acting like she is. Just be happy with what we have because sooner or later she might not give us anything. Then that is the time to raise our voices not now so be carful what you put out into the universe it might come back and bite you.
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Post by meesterpaull on Dec 22, 2018 13:53:52 GMT
She has other projects she's attending to right now and she has a family. What else do you want from her? Her blood? I.m not trying to sound mean but I think she deserves some time to herself to do other things besides her music. She earned it she has been devoted to us for so long why should we keep begging for more? Are you not happy with what she has given us? She's isn't a machine and I think you know this but this post is acting like she is. Just be happy with what we have because sooner or later she might not give us anything. Then that is the time to raise our voices not now so be carful what you put out into the universe it might come back and bite you. While I agree that she does deserve her own time and that she does have a family, I also think if you're not ready to go 100% for album release wait until you can. That saying I think she has given her 100%, it's just a different way to what we are used too. My thoughts on it are she has passed her relevant date. Doesn't mean she can't sell, because we all know she had something like the No4 best selling album of the year, I just mean people ain't excited about her anymore. No one streams her songs, no buzz when she releases a new music video. She released What About Us and people were like. Oh Pink is back, I like this song. Because of this I just don't think her or her record label really want to invest in that side anymore and rather put there efforts into the tour. Why do a re-release when she's already sold the ticket? The re-release might generate a few more album sales, but no ones gonna stream them new tracks and no ones gonna count down her music video. (Except us of course) Honestly feel the same about Beautiful Trauma, it's such a good album but because nothing is keeping me coming back to it I don't think i've done a full listen since Summer. Every other album i'd always come back due too a music video release, new promo, new something.
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Post by Dani on Dec 22, 2018 16:33:15 GMT
Whatever happens I just hope she doesn’t quit music or takes 5 year long breaks again. And this is a selfish comment from me. Deep down I want her to do whatever she puts her heart into and whatever makes her happy.
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Post by jonloch1 on Dec 22, 2018 18:25:14 GMT
Whatever happens I just hope she doesn’t quit music or takes 5 year long breaks again. And this is a selfish comment from me. Deep down I want her to do whatever she puts her heart into and whatever makes her happy. This is what im worried about. and I do have to say I do think pink gurl comments are a bit out of order because that is so not what im saying at all. I totally get she has a family now and it was never gunna be the amount she did for IND and FH. Completely understand. I just feel like after 5 years of nothing she released BT, did 2 months promo and then the era died. The minimum promo is OK with me but the thing that bugs me a bit is why she never did a deluxe edition or a fan edition with extra songs. I thought she'd release one at the end of this year so that we had more new songs and tbh it wouldn't even mean a lot of work from pink tbh so don't get why she didn't done especially as she said she recorded like over 50-60 songs
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Post by qcpatdive on Dec 22, 2018 18:26:23 GMT
There is so much sadness in the music industry (and in the world in general), too much suicides, overdoses and other mental issues. I just want her to be happy. And that makes me happy that she still loves doing music and going on tour. I don't need promo or whatever to come back to her music. Her music still has the same impact on me. And I don't really care about the number of streaming or views on YT. Maybe it's not that important for her either. I don't know. Maybe that's why she doesn't put a lot of energy on that.
We are lucky to have her.💕
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Post by qcpatdive on Dec 22, 2018 18:29:05 GMT
Whatever happens I just hope she doesn’t quit music or takes 5 year long breaks again. And this is a selfish comment from me. Deep down I want her to do whatever she puts her heart into and whatever makes her happy. This is what im worried about. and I do have to say I do think pink gurl comments are a bit out of order because that is so not what im saying at all. I totally get she has a family now and it was never gunna be the amount she did for IND and FH. Completely understand. I just feel like after 5 years of nothing she released BT, did 2 months promo and then the era died. The minimum promo is OK with me but the thing that bugs me a bit is why she never did a deluxe edition or a fan edition with extra songs. I thought she'd release one at the end of this year so that we had more new songs and tbh it wouldn't even mean a lot of work from pink tbh so don't get why she didn't done especially as she said she recorded like over 50-60 songs I must admit that I also thought she'd release new material before the end of this year...
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Post by Dani on Dec 22, 2018 18:39:15 GMT
This is what im worried about. and I do have to say I do think pink gurl comments are a bit out of order because that is so not what im saying at all. I totally get she has a family now and it was never gunna be the amount she did for IND and FH. Completely understand. I just feel like after 5 years of nothing she released BT, did 2 months promo and then the era died. The minimum promo is OK with me but the thing that bugs me a bit is why she never did a deluxe edition or a fan edition with extra songs. I thought she'd release one at the end of this year so that we had more new songs and tbh it wouldn't even mean a lot of work from pink tbh so don't get why she didn't done especially as she said she recorded like over 50-60 songs I must admit that I also thought she'd release new material before the end of this year... I think most of us did. Maybe there’ll be more soon
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Post by itsviki on Dec 22, 2018 21:44:53 GMT
I feel like she's no longer enjoying this at all any more. Really. I was so excited and happy when she returned..I can't tell what I was expecting..bbut not this. I could be wrong but I think she's done with making music , and being a "popstar" after all. I'm not gonna lie after the 5 years break this era's been a big dissapointment. But I do really want her to be Happy, spend time with her family etc.
I ll love her no matter what and I'm not ungrateful but that's how I feel.
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Post by dfantasy on Dec 23, 2018 5:25:36 GMT
All eras, not just hers, have been cut short actually, at least for popstars'. Most eras fizzle out by the time the second single is released.
I hope she continues to put out new quality albums (and experiment with new styles). It doesn't have to be a full-on tour (of course it's terrible for us) since she has other priorities now.
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Post by heehawes on Dec 23, 2018 5:33:20 GMT
i maybe I'm getting old, but this era seems to be going fine to me. a few awards notminations. some TV performances. radio play. tour. I dunno. new music would be nice, but didnt she say outright before this album came out that there wouldnt be special editions?
im fine with it. im having fun.
but like, I dunno. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by Pinkgurl on Dec 23, 2018 6:00:59 GMT
I know people aren't liking what I said but you have to know it comes from a place of pain. I have lots a lot of artists that I loved that aren't here anymore and all I'm trying to say is be greatful but you never know what tomorrow will hold.
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Post by heehawes on Dec 23, 2018 6:06:27 GMT
I know people aren't liking what I said but you have to know it comes from a place of pain. I have lots a lot of artists that I loved that aren't here anymore and all I'm trying to say is be greatful but you never know what tomorrow will hold. oh.... just read your previous post. i dont think people are complaining or anything. they are just chatting, and no harm in that. yes I believe everybody here is greatful for what shes shared with us. but its like a little drug, we gots the itch and we want more. ive loved this era so much. and seeing her take time to herself is amazing. I love seeing her smile and she has seemed so happy lately. ❤️
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Post by grenno on Dec 23, 2018 15:56:37 GMT
We live in a new era and P!nk knows this. BT was in a way just to get her feet wet again and see if people still buy her stuff (that GH summer tour before the BT release was kinda testing the waters it seems and getting her name out there again after 5 years). Physically and in regards to touring she's still on top, but digitally and all that new stuff that has been added to the list of being a relevant popstar these days haven't really taken off. She does go viral every now and then (VMA speech) but not cause of her music unfortunately like before.
These days album eras also don't really work like they did, say, 5-10 years ago, where eras had actual albums with singles, those singles were promoted, had videos that had making ofs that went on air and all that other stuff. Nowadays it's more about a quick cute single, not really an album, a body of work anymore. I hear of artists being featured on this and that song, and putting out a single here and there over years with an "album coming out soon" that's pretty much just a single collection for a spotify tracklist instead of a full-fledged album. You can be creative but it only sells if it's on a 3min song that you can make a remix out of and feature another artist on it. It happened before, sure (GTPS/Sweet Dreams), but today it's not an extra but the main attraction.
And I think with BT not having the effect that she and her label might have wished for, and probably saw coming as well, she right off the bat said that BT will only be a 13 song record with no other editions put out. She frontloaded the era to get all her ducks in a row and get that part of a single/album release done and over with to completely focus on the tour.
She also has Two Wolves Wine now that she scheduled in with a big hiatus between two tour legs (a big hiatus between two tour legs... now that's a sentence...) and her family that she of course tries to spend as much time with as possible. All understandable.
BT might have worked better during a different decade. I love the album. It's got a certain tone, it might not be left field, but it still has facets that are different from what she did before and I would have LOVED if she went deeper and explored those new facets by making songs singles that are not her usual formula. Just to get out there and show a different side. The era started well with WAU. It was a slightly political song with an amazing video. If she had went that route and put out Better Life which could have been such a great discussion starter for mental health and social media that is so relevant today (with a cool video) and I Am Here which is very existential and deserved to be heard--both songs containing bits of genre that she never did before--and maybe add For Now for good measure and to please the pop/rock crowd, she would've expanded her repertoire in the eyes of the listeners so much more.
I'm kinda sad that it was released so late cause we didn't get that elaborate era we would have gotten years ago. Instead it sort of died off quickly. Luckily I am more of an album guy and not really a tour guy so I am glad to say that BT didn't get old yet, like TTAL for example that I got sick of one or two months in and wished BT would have been released those times instead lol
But this is just all personal opinion. Times change. She grows up and changes. She's not getting any younger. So aren't we. Her musical creative peak as P!nk was a decade or more ago and she is not in it for the music anymore as much as touring and getting actual money for that since only selling album doesn't do much to your wallet. Her passion lies now in wine. All understandable and I am glad I have highlights like M!ssundaztood to look/listen back to. I'm sure when her kids are older she will get a kiss from the music muse again and create something grand. Right now, I am excited for that second You + Me album soon that I hope she'll record soon.
Anyway, as much as it pains me to probably realize that her future eras are gonna die off quickly as well, I hope that at least she will put out a worthwhile album that doesn't need all the bling bling around to be enjoyable and not grow old in a matter of a nanosecond.
Wait... what was the question again? I've been rambling on and on 😂
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Post by heehawes on Dec 23, 2018 16:28:43 GMT
🤷🏻♀️
Not directed at anybody specifically - I'm just thinking outloud here.....
I don't know what this is all based on. Are we talking about "surving in the music industry?" are we talking about numbers? Sales? Money? Radio? Tv? Tabloids? Todays latest gossip?
I don't think these are the things that made us fans. and I don't believe these are the things that made her an artist.
She, Pink, Alecia, the thinker, the do'er, does things HER way. It's not about what she thinks other people think is the correct way, shes running her race and going the route that she wants.
I am not disappointed in this Era at all. and to a certain extent I get confused even when talking about "Eras" - I understand technically what is meant, we are talking about her current album and the time surrounding it.
She's a creative mind, she follows her heart.
Some artists paint, some some sing, some act, some write, some dance. I believe many artists work on multiple pieces at the same time. Its not all or nothing. "I'm gonna work on this, and then this for a bit, and then come back to that, etc etc etc" Sometimes diversity in your projects gives you a different view on how to work it....
Her music is far from dull to me. This album is still amazing. and whether it sold 100 copies, or 100 million, itd still be amazing in my eyes.
I don't think she seeks to be the number one selling artist at all time. Its not about numbers. its about her passion and that passion is still there. you can see it.
thats why I love her.
and shes far from finished.
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