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Post by Dani on Nov 17, 2019 19:28:59 GMT
Who shot the sheriff 💚💛❤️🖤
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Post by Dani on Nov 19, 2019 20:58:58 GMT
Untouchable (the documentary)
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Post by Dani on Nov 19, 2019 21:29:18 GMT
It annoys me a bit That none of these women are upset, just being all emotional and huge ass victims Why do so many feel so powerless against men? I’ll never understand that. Like yeah I sucked his cock cause I wanted a movie role and he’s an asshole blabla Instead it’s I sucked his cock cause I had no other option Yes you did have the option not to suck and if you fucking decided to do it fucking own it and talk about your disgust than about feeling sorry for yourself Jesus the fuck Christ  |
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Post by purple18 on Nov 21, 2019 9:51:19 GMT
It annoys me a bit That none of these women are upset, just being all emotional and huge ass victims Why do so many feel so powerless against men? I’ll never understand that. Like yeah I sucked his cock cause I wanted a movie role and he’s an asshole blabla Instead it’s I sucked his cock cause I had no other option Yes you did have the option not to suck and if you fucking decided to do it fucking own it and talk about your disgust than about feeling sorry for yourself Jesus the fuck Christ i think the emotional and psychological abuse is way more powerful in these cases than the actual physical abuse... it messes with your head. feeling sorry for yourself if part of the healing process imo. but it should not last forever, that's true. i also say now that there is no fucking way i could be pressured into anything sexual for any job but there are threats that are very powerful. |
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Post by Dani on Nov 21, 2019 19:52:37 GMT
It annoys me a bit That none of these women are upset, just being all emotional and huge ass victims Why do so many feel so powerless against men? I’ll never understand that. Like yeah I sucked his cock cause I wanted a movie role and he’s an asshole blabla Instead it’s I sucked his cock cause I had no other option Yes you did have the option not to suck and if you fucking decided to do it fucking own it and talk about your disgust than about feeling sorry for yourself Jesus the fuck Christ i think the emotional and psychological abuse is way more powerful in these cases than the actual physical abuse... it messes with your head. feeling sorry for yourself if part of the healing process imo. but it should not last forever, that's true. i also say now that there is no fucking way i could be pressured into anything sexual for any job but there are threats that are very powerful. For sure! I’m not saying that. And definitely not defending any of it. And no matter how much of an idiot most of these men are, and how much they are using women and how much I wish they never existed. They are also in a position where people will use them back, and through being fine with sex. This is me nowhere defending them at all, I just think there are some things that I’m not OK with the other way around either. |
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Post by purple18 on Nov 21, 2019 20:42:42 GMT
i think the emotional and psychological abuse is way more powerful in these cases than the actual physical abuse... it messes with your head. feeling sorry for yourself if part of the healing process imo. but it should not last forever, that's true. i also say now that there is no fucking way i could be pressured into anything sexual for any job but there are threats that are very powerful. For sure! I’m not saying that. And definitely not defending any of it. And no matter how much of an idiot most of these men are, and how much they are using women and how much I wish they never existed. They are also in a position where people will use them back, and through being fine with sex. This is me nowhere defending them at all, I just think there are some things that I’m not OK with the other way around either. oh no i didnt think for a minute that you would defend anything. i dunno, since i thankfully has never been through sexual abuse or sexual abuse mixed with power abuse, i just cant imagine how these women really feel. what i know is that psychological abuse can break you beyond repair and maybe that is why they react differently than we could imagine or even how we think we would. hopefully we will never have to know. |
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Post by Dani on Nov 21, 2019 20:49:41 GMT
For sure! I’m not saying that. And definitely not defending any of it. And no matter how much of an idiot most of these men are, and how much they are using women and how much I wish they never existed. They are also in a position where people will use them back, and through being fine with sex. This is me nowhere defending them at all, I just think there are some things that I’m not OK with the other way around either. oh no i didnt think for a minute that you would defend anything. i dunno, since i thankfully has never been through sexual abuse or sexual abuse mixed with power abuse, i just cant imagine how these women really feel. what i know is that psychological abuse can break you beyond repair and maybe that is why they react differently than we could imagine or even how we think we would. hopefully we will never have to know. Of course. I’m not saying anything about that. Of course it’s traumatic. No judgement and not actually anything to do with the point I was trying to make in this whole thing, at all. |
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Post by Dani on Nov 21, 2019 21:04:04 GMT
Have you seen it btw?
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Post by purple18 on Nov 21, 2019 21:08:54 GMT
sadly not (yet), not enough time  but i read a lot of these interviews when #metoo began and the articles that started the whole thing with Harvey Weinstein. |
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Post by Dani on Nov 21, 2019 22:08:12 GMT
sadly not (yet), not enough time but i read a lot of these interviews when #metoo began and the articles that started the whole thing with Harvey Weinstein. Watch it when you find time. It’s sad and upsetting. And I guess what I try to say is that wish that every woman in the world would have more respect to themself than to anyone or anything else in the world. And I don’t feel like many of these women had and it’s not about blaming them it just is upsetting me that no one snaps hard when they are being treated like shit. And that just because he has power and money they feel like they are below him, no you fucking are not, you’re just as equal and worthy and it’s fucking time we wake the fuck up and stop letting us being treated like toys. I guess looking at it, and seeing what’s happening, and how the women are portrayed in this and how he is being portrayed, is upsetting to me. He’s a loser. A monster. 80 women were abused. Of course for him this behavior was normalized, he got away with it, without any opposition, and if there was anyone being problematic he’d pay them off or give them that special treatment. That’s also wrong imo. And upsetting. Everyone around him too. Shutting up, being ok with it all. It reminds me of the R Kelly thing and MJ thing. For sure some of the women used him to climb the latter, too, most of them were used by him. None of it is right. And yeah finally people dare to talk about it, good, finally people find the energy to talk about it, good. But it hurts my soul and heart that so so so few know their worth and so many would do anything to be famous and rich. He and R Kelly finally got the punishment they deserved, but how many years did this take? 20? Like, you can say no to sleep in the same room as him “cause it was something wrong with the booking”. You don’t have to “meet him in his room to talk”. Like doh wake up. Go to another hotel if it’s full. Chat in the lobby. Or conference room. Like have your boundaries and know your worth and make your voice heard if you’re not being treated the way you know you should be. Go to police if no one is listening. I guess it’s easier said than done, we all have been manipulated one way or another. Luckily I’ve never had to deal with a monster in such power. And honestly if I’d have to suck a dick or sleep with someone to get my dream job, I’d rather be flipping burgers and sucking a dick I want to suck. Somewhere you have to decide what it’s worth and what you can live with. I imagine it being about 80 other women, being through the same things, not being loud cause they made a successful career. 🤷‍♀️ |
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Post by Dani on Nov 21, 2019 22:24:38 GMT
30 years*
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Post by purple18 on Nov 22, 2019 10:10:10 GMT
sadly not (yet), not enough time but i read a lot of these interviews when #metoo began and the articles that started the whole thing with Harvey Weinstein. Watch it when you find time. It’s sad and upsetting. And I guess what I try to say is that wish that every woman in the world would have more respect to themself than to anyone or anything else in the world. And I don’t feel like many of these women had and it’s not about blaming them it just is upsetting me that no one snaps hard when they are being treated like shit. And that just because he has power and money they feel like they are below him, no you fucking are not, you’re just as equal and worthy and it’s fucking time we wake the fuck up and stop letting us being treated like toys. I guess looking at it, and seeing what’s happening, and how the women are portrayed in this and how he is being portrayed, is upsetting to me. He’s a loser. A monster. 80 women were abused. Of course for him this behavior was normalized, he got away with it, without any opposition, and if there was anyone being problematic he’d pay them off or give them that special treatment. That’s also wrong imo. And upsetting. Everyone around him too. Shutting up, being ok with it all. It reminds me of the R Kelly thing and MJ thing. For sure some of the women used him to climb the latter, too, most of them were used by him. None of it is right. And yeah finally people dare to talk about it, good, finally people find the energy to talk about it, good. But it hurts my soul and heart that so so so few know their worth and so many would do anything to be famous and rich. He and R Kelly finally got the punishment they deserved, but how many years did this take? 20? Like, you can say no to sleep in the same room as him “cause it was something wrong with the booking”. You don’t have to “meet him in his room to talk”. Like doh wake up. Go to another hotel if it’s full. Chat in the lobby. Or conference room. Like have your boundaries and know your worth and make your voice heard if you’re not being treated the way you know you should be. Go to police if no one is listening. I guess it’s easier said than done, we all have been manipulated one way or another. Luckily I’ve never had to deal with a monster in such power. And honestly if I’d have to suck a dick or sleep with someone to get my dream job, I’d rather be flipping burgers and sucking a dick I want to suck. Somewhere you have to decide what it’s worth and what you can live with. I imagine it being about 80 other women, being through the same things, not being loud cause they made a successful career. 🤷‍♀️ i completely agree... maybe this should start with the way we bring up our children. they need to learn from an early age that everyone needs to be respected and they need to stand up for themselves and not be pushed down. around me i see too many examples of women following their mothers' way of trying to survive in an abusive relationship and it shouldnt be like that. i think it's also important that the line between doing something because you really want to and doing something because you are MADE to think you really want it or MADE to think it is the only way is very thin. women need to be taught that their bodies are not tools to use as negotiation but victim-blaming is very very bad and ineffective as well. |
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Post by purple18 on Nov 22, 2019 10:10:57 GMT
ps. watch The Tale. it's super hardcore stuff.
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Post by Dani on Nov 22, 2019 10:14:19 GMT
ps. watch The Tale. it's super hardcore stuff. I have. |
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Post by Dani on Nov 22, 2019 10:28:07 GMT
Watch it when you find time. It’s sad and upsetting. And I guess what I try to say is that wish that every woman in the world would have more respect to themself than to anyone or anything else in the world. And I don’t feel like many of these women had and it’s not about blaming them it just is upsetting me that no one snaps hard when they are being treated like shit. And that just because he has power and money they feel like they are below him, no you fucking are not, you’re just as equal and worthy and it’s fucking time we wake the fuck up and stop letting us being treated like toys. I guess looking at it, and seeing what’s happening, and how the women are portrayed in this and how he is being portrayed, is upsetting to me. He’s a loser. A monster. 80 women were abused. Of course for him this behavior was normalized, he got away with it, without any opposition, and if there was anyone being problematic he’d pay them off or give them that special treatment. That’s also wrong imo. And upsetting. Everyone around him too. Shutting up, being ok with it all. It reminds me of the R Kelly thing and MJ thing. For sure some of the women used him to climb the latter, too, most of them were used by him. None of it is right. And yeah finally people dare to talk about it, good, finally people find the energy to talk about it, good. But it hurts my soul and heart that so so so few know their worth and so many would do anything to be famous and rich. He and R Kelly finally got the punishment they deserved, but how many years did this take? 20? Like, you can say no to sleep in the same room as him “cause it was something wrong with the booking”. You don’t have to “meet him in his room to talk”. Like doh wake up. Go to another hotel if it’s full. Chat in the lobby. Or conference room. Like have your boundaries and know your worth and make your voice heard if you’re not being treated the way you know you should be. Go to police if no one is listening. I guess it’s easier said than done, we all have been manipulated one way or another. Luckily I’ve never had to deal with a monster in such power. And honestly if I’d have to suck a dick or sleep with someone to get my dream job, I’d rather be flipping burgers and sucking a dick I want to suck. Somewhere you have to decide what it’s worth and what you can live with. I imagine it being about 80 other women, being through the same things, not being loud cause they made a successful career. 🤷‍♀️ i think it's also important that the line between doing something because you really want to and doing something because you are MADE to think you really want it or MADE to think it is the only way is very thin. This is the exact thing I'm talking about. He walked around naked. He made them think "it's just 5 minutes, you don't need to do anything", "Everyone does that in this business", "I've slept with this and that and this and that person - look how far they come", etc. There will ALWAYS be people like him. EVERYWHERE. Not just in Hollywood. And I'm sure there are! Somewhere we have to decide, no matter what the environment is that we arrive to, no matter what is "normalized" there... AM I OK WITH IT. Do I sense it is wrong? If it is, why am I still here? You mentioned destructive relationships - I would say that's a whole other discussion, even if it's similar. This is where I feel most frustration, where the loss of respect for your own values are lost because you would pretty much sacrifice anything to get somewhere. I'm questioning that. And I will be open with what I think about it. I think that it is somewhat a choice, too. There was one example - one person that saw what was happening and wasn't OK with it so she quit. And she was loud about it too. If there were more women like her, standing up for themselves and their rights and not valuing their career or fame more, this guy wouldn't be able to do this for 30 years, maybe he'd get away with 1 year. |
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but i read a lot of these interviews when #metoo began and the articles that started the whole thing with Harvey Weinstein.