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Post by dfantasy on Aug 28, 2023 2:11:50 GMT
Yeah, it's really strange to me that someone who loves Queen, Janis Joplin, Led Zeppelin is coming out with songs like NGNDA, at this stage of her career. The idea for the song is actually great (all the mind games we play with ourselves), but it is so cheesy. This album had such great potential - First Aid Kit, Lumineers (though I'm one of the few who love LWTG), but the songs are written so lazily. Sorry guys to be such a Debbie Downer. I'm of the opinion if she releases a gem, she will get played on the radio/streamed even if she's outside the age bracket. But she keeps bringing on the duds. Oh well. It makes TOTAL sense she'd write a song like NGNDA. She said it herself, it is cheesy, but it's cheesy on purpose. It's just a feel-good song and I think it excels at it's purpose. I love NGNDA, the production is great, the vocals are great, the meaning is great. Not every song has to be super deep to be good, and I think NGNDA fulfills it's purpose super well. I agree that much of the album is lazily written. What is Runaway even referring to? What about Kids In Love? It's hard to decipher the meaning. And many of the bridges of the album are just repeated choruses or a single word/phrase over and over and over again. Although I LOVE Kids In Love due to it's overall vibe and rhythm. And LWTG is beautiful, but I feel the bridge should be longer. She really does need a new label and to come out with a totally new album. Her last three albums have been much of the same. We need something very different IMO. True about NGNDA - I guess it would be ok if the rest of the album was solid. But I keep thinking about how it could have turned out if her inspiration of the song was better executed. 'We think we're fat, so we don't go to the swimming pool' kind of thing. Totally agree on what you said about the other songs. And it should be "run away" not one word "runaway" for the song to even make sense lol. I was SO excited about the collab with First Aid Kit, who has beautiful, introspective songs, but this was so boring. Sadly she won't be joining a new label (she's fiercely loyal) and all the yes people around her will just enable her. So back to the original topic, maybe this lack of interest in her work will push her. Maybe not. |
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Post by Hooker on Aug 28, 2023 3:45:27 GMT
Agreed that she needs to pull her album socks up and allow herself to venture into less comfortable musical spaces. You mean US radio, yeh, because I'm pretty sure she still gets decent airplay for her newer songs in EU, CA, AU and NZ? By the way, can anyone tell me how much of an effect radio has on charts in the US these days anyway? Yeah, it's really strange to me that someone who loves Queen, Janis Joplin, Led Zeppelin is coming out with songs like NGNDA, at this stage of her career. The idea for the song is actually great (all the mind games we play with ourselves), but it is so cheesy. This album had such great potential - First Aid Kit, Lumineers (though I'm one of the few who love LWTG), but the songs are written so lazily. Sorry guys to be such a Debbie Downer. I'm of the opinion if she releases a gem, she will get played on the radio/streamed even if she's outside the age bracket. But she keeps bringing on the duds. Oh well. I have the same faith about a gem of a song doing the trick. She's only in her mid-40s and still culturally popular, relatively chart-successful, and a massive touring entity, so it wouldn't be a crazy-hard uphill battle for her. There is so much love for her old R&B pop tunes that I think a nostalgic-leaning track that brings in those elements but is still who she is today could do the trick? I have to disagree about the duds part because I think Trustfall the song has been a sleeper hit and well-liked by even the most casual fans. |
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Post by Hooker on Aug 28, 2023 3:56:34 GMT
Yeah, it's really strange to me that someone who loves Queen, Janis Joplin, Led Zeppelin is coming out with songs like NGNDA, at this stage of her career. The idea for the song is actually great (all the mind games we play with ourselves), but it is so cheesy. This album had such great potential - First Aid Kit, Lumineers (though I'm one of the few who love LWTG), but the songs are written so lazily. Sorry guys to be such a Debbie Downer. I'm of the opinion if she releases a gem, she will get played on the radio/streamed even if she's outside the age bracket. But she keeps bringing on the duds. Oh well. It makes TOTAL sense she'd write a song like NGNDA. She said it herself, it is cheesy, but it's cheesy on purpose. It's just a feel-good song and I think it excels at it's purpose. I love NGNDA, the production is great, the vocals are great, the meaning is great. Not every song has to be super deep to be good, and I think NGNDA fulfills it's purpose super well. I agree that much of the album is lazily written. What is Runaway even referring to? What about Kids In Love? It's hard to decipher the meaning. And many of the bridges of the album are just repeated choruses or a single word/phrase over and over and over again. Although I LOVE Kids In Love due to it's overall vibe and rhythm. And LWTG is beautiful, but I feel the bridge should be longer. She really does need a new label and to come out with a totally new album. Her last three albums have been much of the same. We need something very different IMO.
Yesterday was black and white
No more looking over my shoulder
We'll be in paradiseRunaway is about escaping the everyday with the one you love. I love it, even if she didn't write it. I can literally see the music video transitioning from black and white to colour, etc. If only her team made it happen. At this stage in her career, I don't believe the label has too much influence over her music, but she does deserve better A&R. |
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Post by alrightsir on Aug 28, 2023 15:00:53 GMT
And Kids In Love is about reminiscing being young, in love, and thinking about what ifs. Such a beautiful meaning, you'll get at some point in your life.
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Post by slava on Aug 29, 2023 9:18:18 GMT
In an ideal world:
Best Pop Vocal Album - Trustfall
Best Solo Pop Vocal Performance - Trustfall (song)
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Post by aleciafanatic89 on Aug 29, 2023 10:22:50 GMT
Would be amazing if she tried a new session with Linda for a few songs on the next album. Linda brought out some of her best, most emotive, raw and vulnerable vocals and lyrics. I would love if she would write with Butch Walker again too.
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Post by grenno on Aug 29, 2023 13:21:38 GMT
Would be amazing if she tried a new session with Linda for a few songs on the next album. Linda brought out some of her best, most emotive, raw and vulnerable vocals and lyrics. I would love if she would write with Butch Walker again too. Agreed. I think regarding previous producers, Linda is at the top of my wishlist for future projects as well for sure (having the P!nk, Linda, Damon trio back would be HEAVEN!). The lyrics, the productions... like you said: she brought out the best in her. And I would love for Eg White to return too. I think the way they started off with Could've Had Everything and One Foot Wrong during the FH era - that type of genre - was so promising and just perfect for her voice and something a mainstream pop star didn't really do back then. I'm sad they didn't explore that soundscape further. Butch would be great too. He brought a specific organicness to the table and Mean is one of my absolute favorites. Don't really know what the next album will bring. Trustfall was, I am sad to say, very lackluster IMO, but it seems like to be one of her favorite albums - if not her favorite (didn't she say so during some interviews?). I wish for her to delve deeper into her creativity and musicality, but it looks like that's not her priority. She is capable of touring on her name alone, so why not give it a go and experiment? Who knows? Maybe it'll be the machete that will grant her a brandnew successful unchartered path others will follow - like with M!ss. Also, next year will be the 10th anniversary of You+Me... Maybe there will be a rose ave. part 2 then! (hopefully) |
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Post by cal on Aug 29, 2023 22:58:40 GMT
Would be amazing if she tried a new session with Linda for a few songs on the next album. Linda brought out some of her best, most emotive, raw and vulnerable vocals and lyrics. I would love if she would write with Butch Walker again too. THIS. THIS. THIS. ALso MORE BILLY MANN!!! |
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Post by apseloni on Aug 30, 2023 3:56:48 GMT
You know, what I like the most about her is thar her music has been so different throughout her carreer that her fans are always very passionate about a certaing genre that they miss or that they consider to be her best. I personally love Trustfall the album and song! I keep listening to it and I only skip JSIS cause I hate it! haha But I also always do that with certain songs from each album: CTMH: I barely listen to; in my world NOBODY wants R&B P!nk haha M!SS: Catch-22 and Respect are always skipped Try This: I can't staaaaand Tonight's The Night IND: not one tbh haha FH: Bad Influence I've never liked and always skip her TTAL: HCTW, ewww I can't with this one BT: YGML, it's a hard pass H2BH: Courage, I hate that it sounds so much like a Sia song in the worst way, the lyrics are good though TF: Just Say I'm Sorry (for this cheesy ass song haha) So, I think she should do whatever pleases her and makes her want to keep sharing her amazing gifts with us  I don't really want her to go "rock" again, unless it's something really inspired, and I think that genre is kinda overdone, but again, that's my opinion lol And regarding the OP, as always, she'll get a nomination and get zip |
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Post by apseloni on Aug 30, 2023 3:58:41 GMT
Would be amazing if she tried a new session with Linda for a few songs on the next album. Linda brought out some of her best, most emotive, raw and vulnerable vocals and lyrics. I would love if she would write with Butch Walker again too. Agreed. I think regarding previous producers, Linda is at the top of my wishlist for future projects as well for sure (having the P!nk, Linda, Damon trio back would be HEAVEN!). The lyrics, the productions... like you said: she brought out the best in her. And I would love for Eg White to return too. I think the way they started off with Could've Had Everything and One Foot Wrong during the FH era - that type of genre - was so promising and just perfect for her voice and something a mainstream pop star didn't really do back then. I'm sad they didn't explore that soundscape further. Butch would be great too. He brought a specific organicness to the table and Mean is one of my absolute favorites. Don't really know what the next album will bring. Trustfall was, I am sad to say, very lackluster IMO, but it seems like to be one of her favorite albums - if not her favorite (didn't she say so during some interviews?). I wish for her to delve deeper into her creativity and musicality, but it looks like that's not her priority. She is capable of touring on her name alone, so why not give it a go and experiment? Who knows? Maybe it'll be the machete that will grant her a brandnew successful unchartered path others will follow - like with M!ss. Also, next year will be the 10th anniversary of You+Me... Maybe there will be a rose ave. part 2 then! (hopefully) Love everything about this post, but also on Eg White, let's not forget one of her best songs imo: Chaos & Piss, it's heaven |
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Post by grenno on Aug 30, 2023 13:34:50 GMT
Agreed. I think regarding previous producers, Linda is at the top of my wishlist for future projects as well for sure (having the P!nk, Linda, Damon trio back would be HEAVEN!). The lyrics, the productions... like you said: she brought out the best in her. And I would love for Eg White to return too. I think the way they started off with Could've Had Everything and One Foot Wrong during the FH era - that type of genre - was so promising and just perfect for her voice and something a mainstream pop star didn't really do back then. I'm sad they didn't explore that soundscape further. Butch would be great too. He brought a specific organicness to the table and Mean is one of my absolute favorites. Don't really know what the next album will bring. Trustfall was, I am sad to say, very lackluster IMO, but it seems like to be one of her favorite albums - if not her favorite (didn't she say so during some interviews?). I wish for her to delve deeper into her creativity and musicality, but it looks like that's not her priority. She is capable of touring on her name alone, so why not give it a go and experiment? Who knows? Maybe it'll be the machete that will grant her a brandnew successful unchartered path others will follow - like with M!ss. Also, next year will be the 10th anniversary of You+Me... Maybe there will be a rose ave. part 2 then! (hopefully) Love everything about this post, but also on Eg White, let's not forget one of her best songs imo: Chaos & Piss, it's heaven EXACTLY! Eg White + P!nk is such a fantastic and underrated match |
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Post by pinkspapichulo77 on Sept 22, 2023 23:53:52 GMT
To me this was her most basic album. So yes probably it will get nominated where others before it deserved the nominations js.
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I don't really want her to go "rock" again, unless it's something really inspired, and I think that genre is kinda overdone, but again, that's my opinion lol