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Post by drnick on Jan 11, 2021 9:15:09 GMT
 đ€Ł He canât do anything online anymore I mean, I hate the guy. He's a sicko. And I wish he never existed, etc etc. But at the same time, I hate censorship. NOT when it's used for violence etc, of course. But the solution is not to shut him up, really. The problem is bigger than that, with so many people sharing the same views as him, and being so frigging mindfucked that they believe everything he (next time there will be someone else...) says. It's a sad sad world, that's all this is about! This is NOT censorship! This is NOT a 1st Amendment issue! This is private companies operating within their TOS. That's it. And this is long overdue. |
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Post by drnick on Jan 11, 2021 9:46:12 GMT
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Post by heehawes on Jan 11, 2021 10:53:15 GMT
Hoping some good news comes from today.
Impeach.
Git it rollllllin'
Also im all in for the 25th amendment, but the impeachment should go alongside with that....
The impeachment has important long term results
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Post by drnick on Jan 11, 2021 11:08:10 GMT
Hoping some good news comes from today. Impeach. Git it rollllllin' Also im all in for the 25th amendment, but the impeachment should go alongside with that.... The impeachment has important long term results Pence is not going to invoke the 25th Amendment. |
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Post by heehawes on Jan 11, 2021 11:19:15 GMT
Hoping some good news comes from today. Impeach. Git it rollllllin' Also im all in for the 25th amendment, but the impeachment should go alongside with that.... The impeachment has important long term results Pence is not going to invoke the 25th Amendment. of course not.... I agree 100%, but just because its not going to happen though, doesn't mean I wouldn't love to see it. I just didn't want to leave the 25th out of this discussion since that the first thing the house is going for today. I too think the 25th is nearly impossible to see have happen, so as I said. IMPEACH |
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Post by drnick on Jan 11, 2021 11:24:58 GMT
Pence is not going to invoke the 25th Amendment. of course not.... I agree 100%, but just because its not going to happen though, doesn't mean I wouldn't love to see it. I just didn't want to leave the 25th out of this discussion since that the first thing the house is going for today. I too think the 25th is nearly impossible to see have happen, so as I said. IMPEACH It's good though, because the Democrats can and should argue that VP's failure to act, to invoke the 25th, forces them to act, to move on with impeachment. The Republicans arguments against impeachment are nonsensical anyway. |
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Post by Dani on Jan 11, 2021 12:00:06 GMT
I mean, I hate the guy. He's a sicko. And I wish he never existed, etc etc. But at the same time, I hate censorship. NOT when it's used for violence etc, of course. But the solution is not to shut him up, really. The problem is bigger than that, with so many people sharing the same views as him, and being so frigging mindfucked that they believe everything he (next time there will be someone else...) says. It's a sad sad world, that's all this is about! This is NOT censorship! This is NOT a 1st Amendment issue! This is private companies operating within their TOS. That's it. And this is long overdue. Hmm. I didn't say it was either. I was just pointing out what I pointed out. |
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Post by Dani on Jan 11, 2021 12:01:09 GMT
I'm surprised you didn't see my point.
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Post by drnick on Jan 11, 2021 12:43:55 GMT
This is NOT censorship! This is NOT a 1st Amendment issue! This is private companies operating within their TOS. That's it. And this is long overdue. Hmm. I didn't say it was either. I was just pointing out what I pointed out. I got it, I just wanted to point out that regarding your hate of censorship, that this is not a censorship issue. Regarding your point, it'd require many things to do, e.g. re-instating the Fairness Doctrine, so the constant lying of the lying industrial complex of the right comes to an end. Lying as a business model must stop. |
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Post by heehawes on Jan 11, 2021 12:45:17 GMT
Unfortunately even with Trump gone, his 74million+ followers still exist.
Lots of horrible hateful people,
And those people exist even if Trump were to vanish off this planet.
I do think that Biden can do some uniting of the divided America during his term. He has solid connections with republican leaders, and can hopefully ease some tensions.
Thatâs where I hear some people talking about a possibility of Biden pardoning Trump. I hope that doesnât happen. But doing that would end the talk (on a federal level) of âlock him up, lock him upâ.
Biden would be closing the book on that and leaving it up to individual states to punish Trump for his crimes.
Again I hope this doesnât happen.
Iâd like to see him made an example of, to say âF no. You donât get to get away with this crazy shit just because youâre the presidentâ
I think Bidenâs current stance letting congress decide what to do is best. He doesnât have to call for impeachment, but sure as hell donât pardon the guy. Like I said though, I get why the possibility of a pardon is being discussed.
As far as social media and private companies booting him.
I love it.
Fuck that guy.
I hope heâs sad as hell right now....
It wonât solve everything,
But it can slightly slow him down from feeding the flames.
But those flames will always be fed by his people one way or another.
**Puke**
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Post by Dani on Jan 11, 2021 12:51:34 GMT
Unfortunately even with Trump gone, his 74million+ followers still exist. Lots of horrible hateful people, And those people exist even if Trump were to vanish off this planet. I do think that Biden can do some uniting of the divided America during his term. He has solid connections with republican leaders, and can hopefully ease some tensions. Thatâs where I hear some people talking about a possibility of Biden pardoning Trump. I hope that doesnât happen. But doing that would end the talk (on a federal level) of âlock him up, lock him upâ. Biden would be closing the book on that and leaving it up to individual states to punish Trump for his crimes. Again I hope this doesnât happen. Iâd like to see him made an example of, to say âF no. You donât get to get away with this crazy shit just because youâre the presidentâ I think Bidenâs current stance letting congress decide what to do is best. He doesnât have to call for impeachment, but sure as hell donât pardon the guy. Like I said though, I get why the possibility of a pardon is being discussed. As far as social media and private companies booting him. I love it. Fuck that guy. I hope heâs sad as hell right now.... It wonât solve everything, But it can slightly slow him down from feeding the flames. But those flames will always be fed by his people one way or another. **Puke** That's the point I tried to make. Also, I didn't say banning him from these platforms is censorship. |
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Post by Dani on Jan 11, 2021 12:53:10 GMT
Hmm. I didn't say it was either. I was just pointing out what I pointed out. I got it, I just wanted to point out that regarding your hate of censorship, that this is not a censorship issue. Regarding your point, it'd require many things to do, e.g. re-instating the Fairness Doctrine, so the constant lying of the lying industrial complex of the right comes to an end. Lying as a business model must stop. Lying as a business model will never stop. It's always been there and it will always be there. The sad part of it all is that people are buying it all. |
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Post by heehawes on Jan 11, 2021 12:56:03 GMT
So I can say one plus side.
Is Trump totally fucked the Republican Party up.
I think any of the Trumps, Donald, DonJr or Ivanka if they were to try and pursue a political career, would have to go as a 3rd party.
That would hopefully split the republican base up.
And then give the democratic side the upper hand with Republicans and Trumpsters going against each other.
Kamala may have an easy ride into a 2024 presidency.
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Post by heehawes on Jan 11, 2021 12:57:47 GMT
I got it, I just wanted to point out that regarding your hate of censorship, that this is not a censorship issue. Regarding your point, it'd require many things to do, e.g. re-instating the Fairness Doctrine, so the constant lying of the lying industrial complex of the right comes to an end. Lying as a business model must stop. Lying as a business model will never stop. It's always been there and it will always be there. The sad part of it all is that people are buying it all. People love buying in to whatever lies they hear. Donât both researching on your own, just eat up what whatever source gives you Then if somebody contradicts you, just speak over them and say âWRONGâ |
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Post by drnick on Jan 11, 2021 12:58:02 GMT
So I can say one plus side. Is Trump totally fucked the Republican Party up. I think any of the Trumps, Donald, DonJr or Ivanka if they were to try and pursue a political career, would have to go as a 3rd party. That would hopefully split the republican base up. And then give the democratic side the upper hand with Republicans and Trumpsters going against each other. Kamala may have an easy ride into a 2024 presidency. |
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