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Post by drnick on Mar 26, 2020 13:41:10 GMT
This is what I think. Sweden has a different strategy than the rest of the world, isn't it? Here, workers are at home, kids are at home (and no, school from home doesn't work for everybody), a lot of elderly people are still going outš , our economy is crashing, we are all scared, and alone. And the impacts will last several years. And a lot of people will die from this virus anyway. Since a lot of person won't be exposed to the virus, because they are in quarantine (I mean young and healthy people), they won't be immunized in case of a 2nd wave of this pandemic. It fears a lot of scientists here. I don't know what is the good strategy. And I know that the way I think sounds a bit like Trump š¤¢. But I have 4 kids and I can see the devastating effects the situation has on them. And I'm afraid of that too. People cry, not because of the coronavirus, but because they can't pay the bills. Alcohol and cannabis sales increased a lot (they are considered as essential services here) Women's shelters are almost empty even if they are still openā¹ļø. Our department of youth protection told that the number of calls for child abuse has decreased during the last weeks.ā¹ļø Can you imagine those kids who have to live with their abuser 24/7. The impacts of our strategy are big on our society. After all that, we will need to take care of our financial health, but also our mental health. Exactly. I was worrying about this and thinking about a solution that Trump is trying, before he even spoke about it so I won't say I sound like him but I don't think he's completely insane with this like I'd normally think he is with everything else. Sweden is doing it midway, like everything, and always. Trying to balance it on both sides, not letting any side dominate the other. The fuck are you talking about? Trump says bullshit all the time, I've yet to see something that could be called a solution coming from him at all. All he's interested in is himself, economy good = good for him, economy bad = bad for him.
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Post by Dani on Mar 26, 2020 13:43:29 GMT
Exactly. I was worrying about this and thinking about a solution that Trump is trying, before he even spoke about it so I won't say I sound like him but I don't think he's completely insane with this like I'd normally think he is with everything else. Sweden is doing it midway, like everything, and always. Trying to balance it on both sides, not letting any side dominate the other. The fuck are you talking about? Trump says bullshit all the time, I've yet to see something that could be called a solution coming from him at all. All he's interested in is himself, economy good = good for him, economy bad = bad for him.
I'm talking about opening businesses up again. |
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Post by drnick on Mar 26, 2020 13:44:54 GMT
The fuck are you talking about? Trump says bullshit all the time, I've yet to see something that could be called a solution coming from him at all. All he's interested in is himself, economy good = good for him, economy bad = bad for him.
I'm talking about opening businesses up again. That's Trump's "solution"? As long as there is not enough testing, that's not a solution to anything. |
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Post by Dani on Mar 26, 2020 13:47:53 GMT
I'm talking about opening businesses up again. That's Trump's "solution"? As long as there is not enough testing, that's not a solution to anything. It's a solution for the unemployed right now yes. |
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Post by drnick on Mar 26, 2020 13:59:40 GMT
That's Trump's "solution"? As long as there is not enough testing, that's not a solution to anything. It's a solution for the unemployed right now yes. To get infected and then infect others so more people can't work, and more people die? Yes. As long as there aren't enough testing abilities, it's not a good idea. Thanks to Trump, there aren't (yet). |
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Post by Dani on Mar 26, 2020 14:02:34 GMT
It's a solution for the unemployed right now yes. To get infected and then infect others so more people can't work, and more people die? Yes. As long as there aren't enough testing abilities, it's not a good idea. Thanks to Trump, there aren't (yet). If everyone that's sick stays home, it won't escalate as much. |
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Post by Dani on Mar 26, 2020 14:03:28 GMT
I mean, it's not like the Americans are staying in or caring about it anyway, or does it just look seem like that to me?
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Post by drnick on Mar 26, 2020 14:07:20 GMT
To get infected and then infect others so more people can't work, and more people die? Yes. As long as there aren't enough testing abilities, it's not a good idea. Thanks to Trump, there aren't (yet). If everyone that's sick stays home, it won't escalate as much. Yes, but that requires testing and also it doesn't cover those who are infected and contagious, but don't know they're infected because they don't have any symptoms. So as soon as testing is up, and hospitals have enough equipment like protective gear, ventilators, masks etc. there can be changes, but they're not there yet. |
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Post by drnick on Mar 26, 2020 14:10:05 GMT
I mean, it's not like the Americans are staying in or caring about it anyway, or does it just look seem like that to me? Well, Trump supporters aren't, because what their "leader" says is always right. In those states where orders are in effect like California and New York it has reduced the number of people outside significantly. But as I mentioned earlier states with Republican governors aren't doing what the experts say, but what Trump says. š¤¦āāļø |
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Post by qcpatdive on Mar 26, 2020 14:20:26 GMT
So in a week that happened. Imagine in a few more weeks. And take 26% of that already have mental health problems, and like already mentioned kids and women/men that will be in physical pain during this time too. Not good. a disaster ā¹ļø |
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Post by heehawes on Mar 26, 2020 14:30:46 GMT
Personally,
Iām fucked financially.....
I donāt want work to start back up......
Thatās coming from somebody in the epicenter of the US outbreak.....
There should be systems in place to better take care of people financially while stuff like this is happening, so they donāt have to make the hard decisions to go in to work when itās not safe.....
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Post by heehawes on Mar 26, 2020 14:34:56 GMT
Lock it down harder in my opinion.
Quit half assing this shit.
I want shit to go back to normal too,
But nows not the right time....
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Post by heehawes on Mar 26, 2020 14:41:14 GMT
Honestly though
Iām so lost as to why the focus here is on the US
It really is a world wide problem, that needs a world
wide solution.
We saw how this virus has spread from country to country.
One country getting it under control fixes nothing....
Those countries that are āunder controlā would be foolish to let a bunch of folks from infected countries in, Itl just get the spread going again in those spots.
So without a global solution, countries have to make the decisions to look out for themselves or endanger all their people.
Do you want any of your countries to let a bunch of potentially infected Americans in? Would that be smart? Probably not....
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Post by Dani on Mar 26, 2020 14:41:52 GMT
Lock it down harder in my opinion. Quit half assing this shit. I want shit to go back to normal too, But nows not the right time.... Thing is, people over there wonāt listen anyway even if you lock everything down. I donāt understand that you two donāt see the damage itās done in just a few weeks. And Iām not talking about the corona. Youāll have to say goodbye to everything over there if youāll lock it down until itās over. It might be years weāre talking about. |
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Post by Dani on Mar 26, 2020 14:42:57 GMT
That strategy is for countries where it works. In America it doesnāt. Accept it.
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