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Post by pumpkinshoes on Mar 22, 2018 21:00:24 GMT
That doesn't sound very good. I feel like they too often in health care still follow that strict authoritarian way of handling things -like you could threaten/scare people into health. It's completely the wrong approach imo. Sorry to hear they don't seem to understand your point of view. Is there any possibility to switch the nurse? BMI of course doesn't always tell the whole story but it's something to go by.. I still don't think you should drop out, just try to talk to the nurse and tell her what you need and show her that you really are motivated. Even though I haven't been in your shoes I've still caught glimpses of this world in the hospital world, because I was dealing with other serious health issues that no one could find a reason to some doctors (without even meeting me) came to the conclusion that I had an ED and treated me there after - in a very non-supportive way. So I've seen what the reception can be like and it can be very humiliating. I hope your current treatment facility is better than that though. Many hugs Maren! <3 I was going to reply to your message on fb but I find fb so messy so I should probably pm your or smth when I have a little bit more energy. That's exactly what I was thinking! They seem to treat everybody the same way, despite the fact that we are all very different, and all have variable needs. And I agree with you, threatning/scaring people into recovery is definetly not the way to go, and it can have the opposite effect. The nurse keeps chanting the same sentence "the faster you get starting with finishing your meal plan, the better prognosis, and you'll recover faster". Well, I am fully aware of that. But, she obviously hasn't taken into consideration that I have issues from the past I still haven't worked my way through. I am starting to think I got ptsd from the psychosis, but I was never assessed for it, even if one of my best friends (who has complex ptsd), believe I do, because I show many similar symptoms. Actually, the nurse who is "responsible" for me, is currently on a sick leave, and has been the entire last week, and will not be back until next Monday, so I had to temporarily switch nurse, so when my real "primary" nurse comes back, she hopefully won't be so god damn strict. I know, bmi is a good tool to go by in most cases, but I just disagree with their limit to 20. Not that it matters THAT much to me, but it stresses me out that they seem to be in a hurry to get me there. I will talk to her tomorrow, I have a foodlog/diary that we go through twice a week, and I will most likely get the opportunity to clear things up with her tomorrow, as I tend to write alot..maybe to much for my own good sometimes. But I have been honest with them all the way, dishonesty won't help me at all. I'm really sorry to hear about your experiences in the healthcare system, Milla. :-( <3 That is, unfortunately very common around here as well I'm afraid.. The last place I went to treatment (inpatient), treated me like shit on the ground. Using my lower back disc herniage/ruptured disc against me, interpreting it as an expression of lacking motivation, when in reality I was in so much pain I could barely sleep, or get up in time for meals, or participate in group therapy even. They threatned to discharge me because of it..! I never finished the scheduled treatment plan because of that. Their reply was that I had to fix my back first before going inpatient again. Well, here I am, 6 years later, and still inable to function because of backpain that still consumes me. They believed it was just a regular back pain that would go away eventually, but MRI scans showed a ruptured disc in L5/S1, with sciata, so no wonder I could barely walk, or have any control of where I put my feet whilst walking. Thank you sweetie for your words, it means alot, you have no idea. <3 Take your time <3 it's important to listen to your body and mind. I really appreciate that you took your time to reply, it was more than I could ever have asked for. Many hugs coming your way <3 I'm sorry for the late reply, Maren. How are you doing now with the treatment and the nurses? I am really sorry, that you too have had to go through bad experiences in the health care system and that you still aren't getting the right individualized treatment. And I hate that patients so often have to come to diagnoses themselves and demand to be assessed! I hope you will get assessed for PTSD if you suspect it. It's so important to get the whole picture right and treat according to that. I am also sorry that you have chronic pain to deal with on top of everything else. So often there is so much going on and the health care system struggles to deal with complex situations. But I know you will get better and happier. One day at a time. Sending you lot's of warm hugs right back at you
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Post by pumpkinshoes on Mar 22, 2018 21:03:36 GMT
I have a new researcher within crisis management and she is awesome. She has a new published article about the evaluation of different (major) crisis and how different authorities have handled them. And then she says yeah there's no law in Sweden that says you have to document whatever's happened and how it's been handled. Isn't that fucking weird that there is no law for that? What. So like, our school here end up having a shooting and we are not obligated to document how we handled it (what went wrong and what didn't), so others can learn from this? W H A T. Who do I have to talk to to change this? That is really strange that there is no law for that. I don't know what the situation is in Finland. Talk to the researcher and ask her how to proceed in order to make a change? Or do you know any politicians?
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Post by Dani on Mar 23, 2018 8:28:02 GMT
I have a new researcher within crisis management and she is awesome. She has a new published article about the evaluation of different (major) crisis and how different authorities have handled them. And then she says yeah there's no law in Sweden that says you have to document whatever's happened and how it's been handled. Isn't that fucking weird that there is no law for that? What. So like, our school here end up having a shooting and we are not obligated to document how we handled it (what went wrong and what didn't), so others can learn from this? W H A T. Who do I have to talk to to change this? That is really strange that there is no law for that. I don't know what the situation is in Finland. Talk to the researcher and ask her how to proceed in order to make a change? Or do you know any politicians? Finland is the only country out of the Scandinavian countries that has a law for this. Problem is that there are no "how to" guidelines for documenting how a crisis is being handled, and to even learn something from it you need an investigator from day 1 until the last day, not when it's all over or half way in. Also so many other parties are involved usually, and the investigator needs "sensitive" information from these parties to be able to make a full report without missing details, which these parties are not obliged to give at all and if they do they either change it because they've done mistakes, or don't give full info. Meaning the documentation is basically worthless if it's going to be "partly" done. I'm a helpless communications officer that can't do more than use my not so academic words to make media interested to put light on it so that people end up talking loud enough that our lazy politicians can't avoid it anymore. She was on radio yesterday evening for 5 minutes and is going to the studio now for live broadcasting. I think it's gonna be on EKOT at 10, the national news thingy. Not sure yet though. I sent it out yesterday after lunch.
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Post by Dani on Mar 23, 2018 9:43:32 GMT
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Post by kathytrydis on Mar 23, 2018 10:33:15 GMT
I have 2 more weeks off work and I’m wondering what to do with myself. Iv already watched all of Girls Incarcerated, Animal Airport, Riverdale and Santa Clarita Diet. I want to rewatch Tru Calling. Haha. #nolife
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Post by purple18 on Mar 23, 2018 13:07:09 GMT
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Post by Dani on Mar 23, 2018 13:20:09 GMT
He said he wouldn't join unless he got the same power here as there. But then again, Tommy says one thing and always ends up doing something else. So who knows.
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Post by Krazy4pink on Mar 23, 2018 13:45:17 GMT
He said he wouldn't join unless he got the same power here as there. But then again, Tommy says one thing and always ends up doing something else. So who knows. I think he's just using it as an excuse to move on with his life and stop being a lonely old homo
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Post by Dani on Mar 23, 2018 14:11:41 GMT
I have 2 more weeks off work and I’m wondering what to do with myself. Iv already watched all of Girls Incarcerated, Animal Airport, Riverdale and Santa Clarita Diet. I want to rewatch Tru Calling. Haha. #nolife If you have time I could need some help with some research stuff for this project thing I’ve started. I guess it’ll take one hour or so.
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Post by Danielle on Mar 23, 2018 16:22:28 GMT
So much work completed today. I wish I could do more as I need the money.
My girl has just broken up for Easter (two weeks). Hope I can keep her entertained.
I won a skateboard on McDonald’s Monopoly. 🎉😂
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Post by Fuckingperfect on Mar 23, 2018 19:13:06 GMT
That's exactly what I was thinking! They seem to treat everybody the same way, despite the fact that we are all very different, and all have variable needs. And I agree with you, threatning/scaring people into recovery is definetly not the way to go, and it can have the opposite effect. The nurse keeps chanting the same sentence "the faster you get starting with finishing your meal plan, the better prognosis, and you'll recover faster". Well, I am fully aware of that. But, she obviously hasn't taken into consideration that I have issues from the past I still haven't worked my way through. I am starting to think I got ptsd from the psychosis, but I was never assessed for it, even if one of my best friends (who has complex ptsd), believe I do, because I show many similar symptoms. Actually, the nurse who is "responsible" for me, is currently on a sick leave, and has been the entire last week, and will not be back until next Monday, so I had to temporarily switch nurse, so when my real "primary" nurse comes back, she hopefully won't be so god damn strict. I know, bmi is a good tool to go by in most cases, but I just disagree with their limit to 20. Not that it matters THAT much to me, but it stresses me out that they seem to be in a hurry to get me there. I will talk to her tomorrow, I have a foodlog/diary that we go through twice a week, and I will most likely get the opportunity to clear things up with her tomorrow, as I tend to write alot..maybe to much for my own good sometimes. But I have been honest with them all the way, dishonesty won't help me at all. I'm really sorry to hear about your experiences in the healthcare system, Milla. :-( <3 That is, unfortunately very common around here as well I'm afraid.. The last place I went to treatment (inpatient), treated me like shit on the ground. Using my lower back disc herniage/ruptured disc against me, interpreting it as an expression of lacking motivation, when in reality I was in so much pain I could barely sleep, or get up in time for meals, or participate in group therapy even. They threatned to discharge me because of it..! I never finished the scheduled treatment plan because of that. Their reply was that I had to fix my back first before going inpatient again. Well, here I am, 6 years later, and still inable to function because of backpain that still consumes me. They believed it was just a regular back pain that would go away eventually, but MRI scans showed a ruptured disc in L5/S1, with sciata, so no wonder I could barely walk, or have any control of where I put my feet whilst walking. Thank you sweetie for your words, it means alot, you have no idea. <3 Take your time <3 it's important to listen to your body and mind. I really appreciate that you took your time to reply, it was more than I could ever have asked for. Many hugs coming your way <3 I'm sorry for the late reply, Maren. How are you doing now with the treatment and the nurses? I am really sorry, that you too have had to go through bad experiences in the health care system and that you still aren't getting the right individualized treatment. And I hate that patients so often have to come to diagnoses themselves and demand to be assessed! I hope you will get assessed for PTSD if you suspect it. It's so important to get the whole picture right and treat according to that. I am also sorry that you have chronic pain to deal with on top of everything else. So often there is so much going on and the health care system struggles to deal with complex situations. But I know you will get better and happier. One day at a time. Sending you lot's of warm hugs right back at you No need to apologise sweetie, I am late at replying myself, so no worries <3 Well, we are sort of speaking the same language now after coming to an agreement with the meal plan, I had to dig in my archive and found my old one from a treatment facility I went to 8 years ago, and all that's left now is for it to be approved by the psychiatrist and leader team, because it is smaller than the standard and mandatory plan they operate with. After all, I have tried recovery once before, and through years of experimenting with different amounts, the meal plan I eventually landed on back then IS in fact right to keep my weight stabile, without gaining into all eternity. And besides I now also have to deal with PCOS, which means my metabolism is fucked up (was diagnosed in 2016 by ultrasound of my ovaries, and bloodsamples showed elevated levels of androgen/testosterone). I swear I gain weight by just smelling the food. I am planning on asking my therapist regarding the PTSD diagnosis, because I can relate to pretty much all of it, except from having dissociation and vivid flashbacks. Thank you. <3 I hope so too. One day at a time, one step at a time.
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Post by kathytrydis on Mar 23, 2018 20:36:41 GMT
I have 2 more weeks off work and I’m wondering what to do with myself. Iv already watched all of Girls Incarcerated, Animal Airport, Riverdale and Santa Clarita Diet. I want to rewatch Tru Calling. Haha. #nolife If you have time I could need some help with some research stuff for this project thing I’ve started. I guess it’ll take one hour or so. Yes, illd be happy to help.
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Post by Dani on Mar 23, 2018 20:54:01 GMT
If you have time I could need some help with some research stuff for this project thing I’ve started. I guess it’ll take one hour or so. Yes, illd be happy to help. Awesome! I'll give you a little something here and you can see if it is something you'd like to do or not. I was asked to take over a Pink FB fanpage with 9k likes from a danish fan and before she even asked me I had been thinking (for a long time!) that we need a Scandinavian fanclub because there is basically none. So I thought why start something new when I can continue from there, so I said yes and also asked a Scandinavian Pink fan account on Twitter and a girl on Instagram that's running a swedish fan account if they were up for a "merge" and everything else that comes with it, and they are in. I took the role to make a little strategy for us and I'm on it atm with some ideas. Here's where I'd need your help. Can you scan through the biggest fan clubs of different artists - Pink or not - and catch on what works best, when and in what channel. Just basically check what they are good at, jot it down in a few lines, link up a few examples and bring it back to me. I've chatted a little with the biggest Pinkfan accounts as they are all friends and they've given me a couple of tips, but I need a bigger picture.
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Post by kathytrydis on Mar 24, 2018 22:15:05 GMT
Yes, illd be happy to help. Awesome! I'll give you a little something here and you can see if it is something you'd like to do or not. I was asked to take over a Pink FB fanpage with 9k likes from a danish fan and before she even asked me I had been thinking (for a long time!) that we need a Scandinavian fanclub because there is basically none. So I thought why start something new when I can continue from there, so I said yes and also asked a Scandinavian Pink fan account on Twitter and a girl on Instagram that's running a swedish fan account if they were up for a "merge" and everything else that comes with it, and they are in. I took the role to make a little strategy for us and I'm on it atm with some ideas. Here's where I'd need your help. Can you scan through the biggest fan clubs of different artists - Pink or not - and catch on what works best, when and in what channel. Just basically check what they are good at, jot it down in a few lines, link up a few examples and bring it back to me. I've chatted a little with the biggest Pinkfan accounts as they are all friends and they've given me a couple of tips, but I need a bigger picture. Dang, iv only got my phone atm, so don’t think that would work for me right now. When I get my laptop back in a few days I’ll see what I can dig out for you. Never known of a merge but I am a member of a few different fan clubs and street teams. Are you looking for advice on how to merge or just general content ideas that will help with activity/traffic...
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Post by Dani on Mar 24, 2018 22:24:10 GMT
Awesome! I'll give you a little something here and you can see if it is something you'd like to do or not. I was asked to take over a Pink FB fanpage with 9k likes from a danish fan and before she even asked me I had been thinking (for a long time!) that we need a Scandinavian fanclub because there is basically none. So I thought why start something new when I can continue from there, so I said yes and also asked a Scandinavian Pink fan account on Twitter and a girl on Instagram that's running a swedish fan account if they were up for a "merge" and everything else that comes with it, and they are in. I took the role to make a little strategy for us and I'm on it atm with some ideas. Here's where I'd need your help. Can you scan through the biggest fan clubs of different artists - Pink or not - and catch on what works best, when and in what channel. Just basically check what they are good at, jot it down in a few lines, link up a few examples and bring it back to me. I've chatted a little with the biggest Pinkfan accounts as they are all friends and they've given me a couple of tips, but I need a bigger picture. Dang, iv only got my phone atm, so don’t think that would work for me right now. When I get my laptop back in a few days I’ll see what I can dig out for you. Never known of a merge but I am a member of a few different fan clubs and street teams. Are you looking for advice on how to merge or just general content ideas that will help with activity/traffic... That's fine! Thanks a lot I have a few people helping out with this already, so no stress! I'd appreciate it whenever you have time! Well, it's not a "technical merge" but more of merging three different/but kinda similar accounts (in three different channels) into one fanclub. So I got the graphics, names, strategy, "rules", etc set. Just need some content ideas like you mentioned. All kinds of ideas - besides the obvious. One idea awakens another, etc. Trying to soak it all up to know what tools I have to play with, so to say
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