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Post by heehawes on Nov 15, 2019 20:31:39 GMT
If P!nk ever forces me to start loving some other female artist instead it'll be Taylor Swift, not because of the music but just because she has more balls than two men in suits. Anyway this one is poppy and fun on a Friday afternoon There was a time when I was listening to some of her stuffs a lot. š Iām glad sheās standing up and speaking out and taking action. It just sucks that these guys are basically holding her music hostage. Like parts where they really have nothing to gain from being assholes. They are just being vindictive. I believe at first it was about money, and when she didnāt play the game they wanted they just said āfuck it - letās just make things difficult for herā š”
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Post by Dani on Nov 15, 2019 20:33:16 GMT
If P!nk ever forces me to start loving some other female artist instead it'll be Taylor Swift, not because of the music but just because she has more balls than two men in suits. Anyway this one is poppy and fun on a Friday afternoon There was a time when I was listening to some of her stuffs a lot. š Iām glad sheās standing up and speaking out and taking action. It just sucks that these guys are basically holding her music hostage. Like parts where they really have nothing to gain from being assholes. They are just being vindictive. I believe at first it was about money, and when she didnāt play the game they wanted they just said āfuck it - letās just make things difficult for herā š” They are blackmailers and need to burn.
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Post by Dani on Nov 15, 2019 20:38:23 GMT
And yeah you're completely right.
They pretty much gave her the option to lose her music to them or stay with them.
Anyway.
What makes my mind blow is the lack of humanity, kindness and loyalty in this. It's just all so fucking dirty. No I'm not naive, I know ALL industries are about money, the whole world is about money. But be kind, be fair, be honest. Don't be ugly.
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Post by heehawes on Nov 15, 2019 20:49:11 GMT
There was a time when I was listening to some of her stuffs a lot. š Iām glad sheās standing up and speaking out and taking action. It just sucks that these guys are basically holding her music hostage. Like parts where they really have nothing to gain from being assholes. They are just being vindictive. I believe at first it was about money, and when she didnāt play the game they wanted they just said āfuck it - letās just make things difficult for herā š” They are blackmailers and need to burn. I need to read up more on whatās going on. I had read up on it a while back - and this was my last understanding. Iām probably wrong with parts - so please correct me (and/or send me the podcasts) My understanding. -Taylor wants her old catalog. -Owners want crazy amount of money. -Taylor tryās to renegotiate. -Owners say āyou can buy them, but you actually have to buy the whole labelā (I believe that is Big Machine Records and Iām sure that Taylor is the only really valuable artist on that label so buying the whole thing doesnāt make sense for her - plus she doesnāt want to own other peoples stuff - she wants to rights to her catalog) -Taylor decides to not give them anything and plans to record her pervious albums since she owns the rights to the songs themselves but not the masters or publishing or whatever lingo meaning she canāt press and sell the old versions of the songs but re-recording then she remake the albums and kinda fuck over the owners that were trying to fuck her over. For some reason in this there was a timeline though that she canāt re-record an album until x amount of time has gone by. Some of that old stuff has hit that time while others havenāt -Owners are now pissed that Taylor found a loophole and are trying to screw her over while they still have pull in any of it. Sounds like they are saying her doing the music live is technically a re-record and being done before the time frame. Itās basically holding her songs hostage š” Iām glad sheās not paying them. I hope the get nothing from this. Hopefully Taylorās legal team can find a way to get what she wants and leave the guys wishing they had played fair from the get go One sad thing though. Is Taylor has the money to fight this. Other less establish artists have been getting screwed like this and blackmailed and have no way to fight back.
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Post by heehawes on Nov 15, 2019 20:50:55 GMT
And yeah you're completely right. They pretty much gave her the option to lose her music to them or stay with them. Anyway. What makes my mind blow is the lack of humanity, kindness and loyalty in this. It's just all so fucking dirty. No I'm not naive, I know ALL industries are about money, the whole world is about money. But be kind, be fair, be honest. Don't be ugly. Yah they tried to tell her at one point that she could stay with them and have one old album for each new album she records.... Itās totally like abusive boyfriend stuff where you make the person you feel like shit feel like they have to stay with you. š¤®
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Post by Dani on Nov 15, 2019 21:11:21 GMT
They are blackmailers and need to burn. I need to read up more on whatās going on. I had read up on it a while back - and this was my last understanding. Iām probably wrong with parts - so please correct me (and/or send me the podcasts) My understanding. -Taylor wants her old catalog. -Owners want crazy amount of money. -Taylor tryās to renegotiate. -Owners say āyou can buy them, but you actually have to buy the whole labelā (I believe that is Big Machine Records and Iām sure that Taylor is the only really valuable artist on that label so buying the whole thing doesnāt make sense for her - plus she doesnāt want to own other peoples stuff - she wants to rights to her catalog) -Taylor decides to not give them anything and plans to record her pervious albums since she owns the rights to the songs themselves but not the masters or publishing or whatever lingo meaning she canāt press and sell the old versions of the songs but re-recording then she remake the albums and kinda fuck over the owners that were trying to fuck her over. For some reason in this there was a timeline though that she canāt re-record an album until x amount of time has gone by. Some of that old stuff has hit that time while others havenāt -Owners are now pissed that Taylor found a loophole and are trying to screw her over while they still have pull in any of it. Sounds like they are saying her doing the music live is technically a re-record and being done before the time frame. Itās basically holding her songs hostage š” Iām glad sheās not paying them. I hope the get nothing from this. Hopefully Taylorās legal team can find a way to get what she wants and leave the guys wishing they had played fair from the get go One sad thing though. Is Taylor has the money to fight this. Other less establish artists have been getting screwed like this and blackmailed and have no way to fight back. Well I donāt see why there needs to be details really. She wants to sing her songs, they will get paid. Thatās it. But fine, she was signed to x. That sold the label to y. Taylor hates y and working with him would be the end of her. According to her she finds out when itās too late and her options are to lose the early songs of her career or to stay with that label. As I understood it they arenāt letting her buying it anymore. Justin and Ariana are signed to the label I think. Unfortunately I think they have the law on their side. But itās dirty business done between ugly people. And this industry is full of them. And most of them are men. And the ones suffering have always been and still always are women.
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Post by Dani on Nov 15, 2019 21:13:40 GMT
And this is nothing new. Iāve herd Robyn, P!nk, Britney ALL OF THEM talking about it. And why is there no change happening? Because no one does shit about it and letās them continue.
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Post by Dani on Nov 15, 2019 21:16:55 GMT
Let me point something else out. These people lack any talent what so ever in music. They are just people with a bunch of money, thinking they have more rights and power than anyone else. Well let me tell you boys, anyone can do what you do with that cash. Not many can still remain decent.
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Post by heehawes on Nov 15, 2019 21:19:26 GMT
Yup and the whole Kesha / Dr Luke thing.....
Fiona had it happen as well, Which started the FreeFiona movement,
Itās super interesting hearing Fiona talk about it.h
Fans took it in to their own hands, Protesting outside of the label headquarters. Mailing 100s of letters (and toy foam apples) to the label As well as collecting signatures (Apparently the fans did some other illegal stuffs too to try and fight the label)
Bleh I need to read on all all all of these things.
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Post by Dani on Nov 15, 2019 21:22:40 GMT
And yeah you're completely right. They pretty much gave her the option to lose her music to them or stay with them. Anyway. What makes my mind blow is the lack of humanity, kindness and loyalty in this. It's just all so fucking dirty. No I'm not naive, I know ALL industries are about money, the whole world is about money. But be kind, be fair, be honest. Don't be ugly. Yah they tried to tell her at one point that she could stay with them and have one old album for each new album she records.... Itās totally like abusive boyfriend stuff where you make the person you feel like shit feel like they have to stay with you. š¤® They are using artists and abusing their power. And it needs to change. There needs to be more people stepping up for the artists and helping them against these manipulations. It wouldnāt surprise me if the AMAs and these idiots work together on this somehow. Setting it up to make this situation happen. I wouldnāt be surprised if it was that ugly.
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Post by Dani on Nov 15, 2019 21:24:16 GMT
Yup and the whole Kesha / Dr Luke thing..... Fiona had it happen as well, Which started the FreeFiona movement, Itās super interesting hearing Fiona talk about it.h Fans took it in to their own hands, Protesting outside of the label headquarters. Mailing 100s of letters (and toy foam apples) to the label As well as collecting signatures (Apparently the fans did some other illegal stuffs too to try and fight the label) Bleh I need to read on all all all of these things. Somehow it reminded me of the prostitution industry and or sex industry or human trafficking industry. Itās at that level but with some glam.
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Post by Dani on Nov 15, 2019 21:26:45 GMT
Disgusting.
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Post by heehawes on Nov 15, 2019 22:16:15 GMT
My mom shared BEAM ME UP on her Facebook and said āthis one is for my parentsā... ššš«ā¤ļøššš«So yah.... Listening to that now. Crying. Thinking about Mom. And my Grandparents. [/img]
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Post by heehawes on Nov 15, 2019 23:51:36 GMT
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Post by heehawes on Nov 15, 2019 23:56:14 GMT
Hurry up and release a rap album, Fiona....
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